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Old 08-24-2012, 02:11 PM
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Whatever accent I attempt to portray invariably comes out Hillbilly.

I had the chance to travel in Europe and Northern africa for about a year back in '73. In that time I met English speaking folks from So Africa, England and Australia. I can now with some accuracy distinguish the different accents from those places....and Ireland. perhaps Scotland.

And don't call anybody English...British is ok but not English.

I later ran into a fellow here in Lafayette from the applacians of Tennessee and some of his words sounded very english in their pronounciation.

I later learned that isolated pockets of folks like in the applacians tended not to evolve their cultural trappings and became sort of trapped in time, linguistically and musically, for example.

I have a pretty good ear for music and I think I can detect accents more than many folks.

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I have no ideal of how regional dialects etc. evolve. I have noticed that various slang or differential descriptive words seem to occur with different cultures of the same language.

I do feel the upper and other class systems of the british Iles were not transfered there with the principal establishing english population base of convicted felons. Because of this class system in england not recognized especially in Australia might have been the biggest factor. I feel various dialects etc
are still not homoginized in nature yet or may ever be in britain. The south africanner english is impacted a lot by the predominatly dutch immigration to that country I expect.
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I have no ideal of how regional dialects etc. evolve. I have noticed that various slang or differential descriptive words seem to occur with different cultures of the same language.

I do feel the upper and other class systems of the british Iles were not transfered there with the principal establishing english population base of convicted felons. Because of this class system in england not recognized especially in Australia might have been the biggest factor. I feel various dialects etc
are still not homoginized in nature yet or may ever be in britain. The south africanner english is impacted a lot by the predominatly dutch immigration to that country I expect.

I don't know the answer either. It does, however, seem that accents will change much more quickly in the coming decades due to our mobile society. As a child in the fifties, the vast majority of people in Texas were native Texans. Now Texas, as is probably so with any state, is a melting pot with people from all over the world. It seems logical that this will melt out the accent of different regions within a generation or two.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:27 PM
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I expect that to MANY people, someone from the UK, South Africa or Australia all sound pretty much the same.
True, most Americans think I'm from Australia, they apparently have never heard of New Zealand. Sometimes they think I'm from England but it's usually Australia they come up with.

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Old 08-24-2012, 05:21 PM
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True, most Americans think I'm from Australia, they apparently have never heard of New Zealand. Sometimes they think I'm from England but it's usually Australia they come up with.

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Based on accent, my sister once mistook an Austrian for German . . . he told her "You're such a nice girl, so I won't kill you."
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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Just to put 2c in!
There are a number of distinct accents in Australia.
I grew up in the hills in South Australia & when we moved to Victoria, some thought we were from some part of Europe.
when working in the USA in the early 1980's along with a few other Australians, many locals could tell the difference.
There are probably at least 5 different accent types in Australia & some new ones developing with the recent influx of Middle Eastern & Asians to Australia.
The accent from the area I grew up in has influence from German & Spanish settlers in the region.
One characteristic that has been noted to me by many from the USA is that Australians tend to speak sentences a little like a song or poetry ending with a higher note, when compared with USA type speech that can be more of a mono tone.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:52 PM
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Spanish and Italian speaking people sound very musical when they speak at times. I love listening to them.
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Just to put 2c in!
There are a number of distinct accents in Australia.
I grew up in the hills in South Australia & when we moved to Victoria, some thought we were from some part of Europe.
when working in the USA in the early 1980's along with a few other Australians, many locals could tell the difference.
There are probably at least 5 different accent types in Australia & some new ones developing with the recent influx of Middle Eastern & Asians to Australia.
The accent from the area I grew up in has influence from German & Spanish settlers in the region.
One characteristic that has been noted to me by many from the USA is that Australians tend to speak sentences a little like a song or poetry ending with a higher note, when compared with USA type speech that can be more of a mono tone.
You will find that in the Canadain acccent as well. They often end a sentence on an upward note - sort like an implied question. Which is where some, but not all, will use word, '' eh ?'' I tend to think it's more polite than, '' huh? ''
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I have no ideal of how regional dialects etc. evolve. I have noticed that various slang or differential descriptive words seem to occur with different cultures of the same language.

I do feel the upper and other class systems of the british Iles were not transfered there with the principal establishing english population base of convicted felons. Because of this class system in england not recognized especially in Australia might have been the biggest factor. I feel various dialects etc
are still not homoginized in nature yet or may ever be in britain. The south africanner english is impacted a lot by the predominatly dutch immigration to that country I expect.
I believe our "Bawlamoor: accent derived from Cockney. British sailors, Baltimore a major sea port.
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Recently released study indicates that most western/euro languages originated from the area currently named Turkey.

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