Originally Posted by elchivito

Welcome to the land of Black Widow spiders, scorpions, rattle snakes as big around as your arm, centipedes that drop off the ceiling into your scrambled eggs. Coyotes and bobcats that will jump the 7 ft. block wall of your beige stucco home and eat your quivering little dog sleeping on the patio. Please prepare to add an hour each direction to your daily commute, no matter where you live.
If you've never experienced allergies in the past, you'll now have an opportunity to develop them, most newcomers do. There are plenty of allergist MDs though, if you don't mind the wait.
Night time august lows in 90's. Walk outside your freezing cold air conditioned home at 3 a.m. and immediately break a sweat.
The winter smog inversions are pretty special. The sun turns such a pretty yellow color.
If you don't carry a weapon, you probably ought to consider it. Cheap plastic semi auto pistols in 9mm are the number one fashion accessory in the Valley Of The Sun, and are easily obtainable by pretty much anyone tall enough to see over the counter at gun shops on nearly every corner.
You'll love it there.
No, really.

Originally Posted by elchivito

I've had family in Phoenix since before statehood, and personally remember it from the 50s. It's not grown up in a particularly nice way as far as I'm concerned. Maybe part of the problem is it seems that lots of folks moved there not for the valley itself, but for economic reasons. As a result there's no real identity to the place.
If for some inexplicable reason I had to live in an AZ town, Tucson would be my choice I believe. Older. More sense of place.

Originally Posted by biking4jesus

going to be in the gilbert area if i can. or chandler.

definitely renting for about a year, before we make any buy decisions...

Originally Posted by barry123400

If there is still excess supply you should be able to do this fairtly easy. At forty eight days average listing time though it does sound like that may not be the case still. There also could be a surplus with properties being held back to give an appearance of less supply than is really there. Games in this current economy are probably almost endless or might become so.

Originally Posted by biking4jesus

i wanted to start a thread about the next "chapter"... my wife and i will be moving out of San Francisco next month and headed to the phoenix, az area. i got offered a great job for an ecommerce site. we've got some family there, i'll have a place w/a 2 car garage, and save up to possibly buy a home and also start a family.

my last day at work is oct 15, and my new start date is the 29th.

i have a TON of stuff we're looking to give away/donate/sell.. if you need something for your house/apartment and are in the bay area let us know.


we're shipping our W124 on a carrier, shes driving the mazda3, and im tailing on my motorycle

Originally Posted by pj67coll

Don't know where they get this bizarre figure from. Given the amount of deserted houses littering the place which nobody is even trying to sell, or rent, or anything - I'd say the supply is far ahead of demand.

- Peter.

Originally Posted by elchivito

It's safe. I've been going there since I was a kid. It's hurting some now, PP's economy follows Arizona / Ca more than it does the rest of Mexico. Huge RE crash there too. Good condo deals.

Originally Posted by barry123400

Wonder if it may be a worthwhile consideration of getting a fixed price option to buy when renting if area prices are tending upward 25 percent in the last year? Otherwise you may live to regret not buying on arrival. Then if prices escallate further even if you do not want the place you should make a profit. If not just do not exercise the option. Not much downside here. The option may have little to no cost. A lot woulkd depend on your abilities on the otherhand there is nothing like the present time to learn. As my grandmother used to say money and oportunity are made with your mind not your hands.

If there is still excess supply you should be able to do this fairtly easy. At forty eight days average listing time though it does sound like that may not be the case still. There also could be a surplus with properties being held back to give an appearance of less supply than is really there. Games in this current economy are probably almost endless or might become so.

Originally Posted by Jim B.

from wiki:
Puerto Peñasco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Looks like a road trip there cold be in the offing.

Your info comports with what I read in a current RE magazine at the Mercedes Benz dealer waiting room when I had the "Red Plum" in there a few days ago for na 4 wheel new alignment for the new tires, that I bought last week.

And now Autumn has started, sounds like a cooler mment to get there now that July and August's infernal desert heat has faded.



And I had friends from Tucson that like to go there to party, you could come with all the fresh caught shrimp you wanted @ $8 a big bucket, along with the Tucson restaurants that got theirs there.

Originally Posted by biking4jesus

well its 6 months in and we're doing alright!

the benz just had RR window regulator crap out, so waiting for that off ebay... and then today front windshield took a good rock and cracked all the way up. time for a new one. have planned to get some window tint too, black on black.