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retmil46 · #16 10-11-2012, 01:07 AM

In fairness to this guy, a crapload of major companies had already started playing this card back in 2011, when the first phases of OC kicked in. The provision that caused all the hoorah was the one essentially doubling the monetary amount of coverage companies had to offer their employees.

Story back in January last year that I saw, at least 35 major companies, one of them McDonalds, told the government that if they weren't granted an exemption from this requirement one of two things would happen - they would start laying off employees in statistically significant numbers, or they would completely drop employee medical coverage.

Feds rolled right over and granted all of them an exemption without so much as a whimper.

Or the one thread from a few months back - one forum member that lives in Nancy Pelosi's district provided links to stories in the local media, of how Aunt Nancy had granted exemptions to companies in her district that had curried (ie, bought) her favor, from having to comply with OC.

And in both instances, that's probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Hey, I'll at least give the guy credit for giving his employees some kind of warning - that if he gets hit with any more taxes or medical expenses under OC, he's going to be looking at laying people off or closing up shop altogether. Better than the situation with some companies, like I described in the thread about the WARN Act notifications - that will blow smoke up your butt until the last minute to keep you working away for them - then one day you get handed a pink slip courtesy of the 6 AM local news before you even leave the house.

cullennewsom · #17 10-11-2012, 01:19 AM

Give the guy credit? Give me a break. It is totally inappropriate IMO for an employer to attempt to influence votes in such a way. I'm glad I don't have to work for a crybaby billion/millionaire like that.

I'm not buying his sob story either. Guy builds a business based on the premise that there is an always growing pool of fools who are always loose with their always growing pool of money. Gets mad when he sees that it might not last forever. Poor guy. Now he can't have his bigger-than-Hurst-Castle-house, at least not yet. Must be tough.

PS Most of his employees are liable to be rebups anyway.

retmil46 · #18 10-11-2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

Give the guy credit? Give me a break. It is totally inappropriate IMO for an employer to attempt to influence votes in such a way. I'm glad I don't have to work for a crybaby billion/millionaire like that.

Any more appropriate for a union to give away 2 million to a certain candidate's presidential campaign - without giving their membership any say in the matter - and then have union reps at the front gate ON PAID TIME handing out flyers to everyone telling them to vote for same said candidate?

Or having a shindig on company property, with a certain governor and certain union bigwigs attending, ostensibly to announce rehiring of a certain number of people - which took all of ten seconds - and then turning it into a campaign rally for a certain presidential candidate and political party for the next half hour - with all employees ORDERED to attend as a captive audience for the news crews?

You're damn right I'll give him credit. Like I said, at least he gave his employees some warning as to what might happen - had at least some level of respect for them. There's a hell of a lot worse people to work for out there - I know, I've met a few of them in my life.

By contrast, do you even for a second believe that either Obama or Romney would actually GAS if any of these 7000 people still had these same jobs after election day? As aklim would say, the only damn thing a politician cares about is getting your vote, and any benefit you get from his actions is purely coincidental.

Jim B. · #19 10-11-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

Give the guy credit? Give me a break. It is totally inappropriate IMO for an employer to attempt to influence votes in such a way. I'm glad I don't have to work for a crybaby billion/millionaire like that.

I'm not buying his sob story either. Guy builds a business based on the premise that there is an always growing pool of fools who are always loose with their always growing pool of money. Gets mad when he sees that it might not last forever. Poor guy. Now he can't have his bigger-than-Hurst-Castle-house, at least not yet. Must be tough.

PS Most of his employees are liable to be rebups anyway.

He could go into business, it might make a really nice "Bed and Breakfast".

aklim · #20 10-11-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

Guy builds a business based on the premise that there is an always growing pool of fools who are always loose with their always growing pool of money. Gets mad when he sees that it might not last forever. Poor guy. Now he can't have his bigger-than-Hurst-Castle-house, at least not yet. Must be tough.

PS Most of his employees are liable to be rebups anyway.

You think he should simply let it go without a fight?

Your point?

Hatterasguy · #21 10-11-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

By contrast, do you even for a second believe that either Obama or Romney would actually GAS if any of these 7000 people still had these same jobs after election day? As aklim would say, the only damn thing a politician cares about is getting your vote, and any benefit you get from his actions is purely coincidental.

Bing, we have a winner. Neither of them really gives a crap either way.

panZZer · #22 10-11-2012, 03:10 PM

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So you're saying that the guy who built a successful business that employs 7,000 people should leave? Seriously? Is anyone who builds a successful business a "worthless job creator" to you, or are you also going to tell us which ones aren't worthless job creators? How about Solyndra? I'd say they're worthless, and they left, taking $535,000,000 of government money with them.

What the CEO seems to be doing is telling them the truth, as he sees it, sitting from behind his desk where he sees all the numbers and pays all of the bills. He listed all of the taxes. Who's to say what's a "sustainable tax" for his business; him or you? (I love that "sustainable" euphemism, too, if that's not a moving target, nothing is.) I suppose you'd rather tell him what the truth is for his company?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're one of the ones that who whines about big, impersonal corporations stealing and gouging (and pouring money into political campaigns, though that is a separate issue); and now you're whining about a real-life flesh-and-blood human that built a business who is indeed complaining about the potentiality of paying more taxes (and discussing what may reasonably result). Okay, so what's left? Shall we all go to work for minnows and giraffes, or just look to mother earth and messiah obama to sustain us?

Are you talking about the "job creators" who have not generated a single net job gain since Bush gave them an out on paying their sustainable share in 02?
(I know-- you heard different), I know some RWNJ's that will never take the blinders off- just keep the damn tax cuts happenin- works for themselves.

Back to the election retoric-- Im wondering what Romney is talking about, I thought it was all these great job creators that keep america healthy-- not whoever is in the whitehouse.

Cut ahead to sept 2014 in a Romney presidency--- "Uhh Mr romney what about all the jobs you said you would create"?

With a big smirk " yea -sure pal- ill get back to you on that".

panZZer · #23 10-11-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

You think he should simply let it go without a fight?

Your point?

Let what go--His empire?

None of the likes of this type dissolve anything that can be turned into cold hard cash.

aklim · #24 10-11-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

Let what go--His empire?

None of the likes of this type dissolve anything that can be turned into cold hard cash.

Anything he owns. Why would he want to pay more taxes? Just to make up for the have nots? All he seems to be saying is that if I have to pay for more taxes, I'm going to cut it out of the employee pool.

Unfortunately we don't see much of your type of people stepping up all ready and able to take his place.

panZZer · #25 10-11-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Anything he owns. Why would he want to pay more taxes? Just to make up for the have nots? All he seems to be saying is that if I have to pay for more taxes, I'm going to cut it out of the employee pool.

Unfortunately we don't see much of your type of people stepping up all ready and able to take his place.

No--Say it aint so, Aklim showing cold callous apathy? That just cant be

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The other part about my type of people? progressive- democrat voting?
There are lots of that type of buisness owner, And they are like any other group, some good and some Wastes Of Space. Uncontrolled Greed is not just a RWNJ trait .

Air&Road · #26 10-11-2012, 03:40 PM

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I love this ignorant hippy stuff

panZZer · #27 10-11-2012, 03:43 PM

Yes and there are DEFINATELY employees that also fit into the Waste of Space catagory, and to be blunt the outfits Really need to purge their organization of some people arranging welfare for themselves in the private sector-- Not many left like this but this type love this stuff too apparantly.

aklim · #28 10-11-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

No--Say it aint so, Aklim showing cold callous apathy? That just cant be

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The other part about my type of people? progressive- democrat voting?

There are lots of that type of buisness owner, And they are like any other group, some good and some Wastes Of Space. Uncontrolled Greed is not just a RWNJ trait .

Never had any need for progressive, aka LWNJ or the conservatives you call RWNJ. I just shorten both to Nut Job.

then let them take over.

aklim · #29 10-11-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

Yes and there are DEFINATELY employees that also fit into the Waste of Space catagory, and to be blunt the outfits Really need to purge their organization of some people arranging welfare for themselves in the private sector-- Not many left like this but this type love this stuff too apparantly.

What is the definition of WOS? Someone who won't agree with your philosophy that we owe each other something?

panZZer · #30 10-11-2012, 04:07 PM

............ yadda

love MONEY

use people.