I can't tell what's in a mind or a heart. I hear what is said and see what is done.

Great point, but if I'm around someone enough, I can tell from what they say and do, what is in their mind and heart.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

GWB was a born again Christian.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

And you see where that got us.

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So you're saying that it only politics as usual, and since the Benghazi incident could reflect poorly on "your" man, you will continue to ignore it and hope the MSM does likewise?

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You a single-issue voter?
The fact that GWB might have been a born again Christian is only one factor to determine if he would make a good president.

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Obama claims he a christian as well....

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He's a Methodist, IIRC. Do they do the 'born-again' thing? I dunno, just asking, but I thought that was the evangelical's schtick.

I know rocket scientists. I'd prefer not to have one as CinC.

Just saying.

In general, a PhD should be a disqualifier for the presidency. So should a JD. I'm an equal-opportunity snob.

Put you down for more of this then? Can we at least maybe consider one that can do math?

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It appears to be more a red state phenomenon where one finds higher incidence and intensity of bible thumping. People as depicted in your post who confuse their opinions with facts. Guns and religion and all that.

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You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

Yes, but a factor that weighs heavily:

He once went on a crusade which by his own account his god had greenlighted. Based on evidence that had been manufactured. Resulting in thousands of US casualties, tens of thousands of Iraqi casualties, $ trillions wasted and a country in ruins.

Perhaps ill advised to have people at the helm who feel entitled to their own facts - the trait believers of most if not all religions share.


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You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

I live in Canada? You know, your neigbour to the north?

Our system includes private insurance companies topping up health care but not on a basic level. If I go to the doctor or hospital for almost any service, that's covered and I don't have to pay for it. I do have to pay for eye care, dental, drugs and a number of other non covered things that I might need. I don't have extended health care through insurance because I've had cancer ( even though it's in full remission ) and they won't cover me for most of the things I would need. I would pay more than it would be worth for me.

Until I was 50, I rarely saw a doctor. I had a thyroid tumor in my chest that involved cracking it open to remove the tumor from deep within. I spent about a week in hospital - all free ( 2006 ). I had long term disability insurance but they wouldn't pay anything because their terms were set up to favour them in all but the perfect circumstance - how often do you get sick and have everthing work out perfectly? I no longer trust any insurance comany. I only have it now because it's what you need to be able to drive and do business.

My point Larry, is that Canada has some social programs and they actually work OK. I'd be completely screwed right now with your system. I would have lost everything because I as unable to work for more than a year, didn't have extended health insurance going into it, and wouldn't have able to get it or afford it after the fact. I never went on welfare but was forced to go back to work or loose everything because my saving were depleted. I wasn't well enough to work but I did what I could. I took next to nothing from the system for all of those years before I got sick and when I really needed it, the system worked for me.

I've always been self employed, first as a farmer and then as a MB restoration specialist. I did it all by myself and now employ two guys right now - one full time and one part time ( he's semi-retired ). If I had to pay for all of the tests and the operation I had under your system, I would be gone ( read dead ) by now and so would those two jobs I created, my own job, and all the shops that work for me.

Canada has an economic system very much like the US. Work hard and invest wisely and you'll do OK. We also do something to help those that can't take care of themselves. You can call it what you like but we call it what it is - the Canadian way.

And this is only about health but it's a big thing here. We feel safe with this system because you can't loose everything because you got sick. It's one less stressful thing to carry during those times that are difficult to manage.

In the guy's defence he did say that he didn't know what hapened before the last 10K or whatever he came up with. However, his notions about the Grand Canyon pretty much spelled it out.
He's still a very smart guy but very much a hard right guy, gunner, god is everything kind of guy. He never talks about this stuff though - unless I bring it up. His wife, on the other hand........