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Old 12-07-2012, 01:28 AM
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Not my point. Its too early to tell all the effects of social change.
Maybe not totally. The orientation and attention being paid to growth areas has already expanded with time. Single parenthood for example is a quick thought. At one time it was basically rejected or stigmitised although it of course still existed in my lifetime. The resultant offspring also paid a social price. That i believe is now pretty much eliminated.

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We're entering into an unknown unknown. Biological evolution of our species has required some sort of copulation involved somewhere in the process. And the child being raised by one or more females, male involvement variable.

WE are on the edge of in vitro production of babies, designed for purpose. This is a vast unknown. Evolution takes a new path.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:31 AM
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So you are saying that the 5 to 10 minutes of fun in exchange for misery and being broke for 18 to 20 years is going to be eliminated.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:36 AM
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So you are saying that the 5 to 10 minutes of fun in exchange for misery and being broke for 18 to 20 years is going to be eliminated.
There used to be a morning talk show host here in Baltimore who would start out like that, and then add, " Who am I kidding, 10 minutes? more like 2 minutes, or 30 seconds....."
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:46 PM
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Personaly I am dead set agains alternative forms of fertilization. Spare the rod and spoil the child comes to mind as a humourous take on the issue.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:08 PM
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Since the era of non repression is relatively new, there is not a lot of data on possible long term detrimental or beneficial effects.

One thing I've learned in almost 40 years in foundation engineering--you can claim credit for a lot of successes---if you do it quickly. Nature has a way of eventually settling scores.

The Bible says it this way---There is pleasure in sin.....for a while.
Your last line nails it: a lot of people have had it drilled deep into their crainial regions that sex is a sin. The stories I've read. Not to mention the sexual anxiety I've struggled to dissolve, heal over, something for some time now. No one to blame - no Bot, no one person is repressing me - but it is a journey.

For the record, I think that doing the deed with someone in front of a camera (and witnesses) is a tad weird. Even the solo (well duo) arrangements where the guy is driving the camera while riding in the saddle would have to be a bit strange. OTOH, many people struggle with a lifetime of hangups and that is its own sort of strange.

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