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Old 12-11-2012, 12:41 PM
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Great response!
Of course it does open the question of what is in your mind that you made that connection. It must be a strange place, indeed. ( Not a criticism--I still suffer from some form of attention deficient disorder--As I told my similarly affected son--its a 2-edged sword--sometimes you will lose people as you make what seem to you to be normal transitions in a conversation but others don't can't follow them., OTOH, those same sorts of leaps enable you to seem very creative.) Was that an example of what happens?
Damned if I know what was in my mind. I rarely know why thoughts pop in and out. Sometimes on reflection I might rationalize cause and effect, but that is perilously circular. Sometimes I get things in dreams, too. It's all okay with me as life would be incalculably boring without it.

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Old 12-11-2012, 02:21 PM
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A buddy on another site is a booster for life of the integral fast reactor (IFR) for which there is apparently no other available suitable coolant/energy transfer medium than liquid sodium. I'll admit it's an attractive solution in many ways - it could consume much of waste nuclear materials currently in haphazard storage and is allegedly meltdown-proof. The downside from what I can gather is that so far practically all of them have suffered debilitating sodium fires. What could go wrong? Liquid sodium separated from water by a thin metal membrane? Oh boy. Maybe if the sodium could heat another medium which is then transferred to the water/steam component - sort of a buffer step - might be more reliable.
Yep. Navy tried a liquid sodium cooled reactor on the original USS Seawolf (attack sub) back in the late 50's. Decided it wasn't a good idea for pretty much the same reasons.
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Maybe if the sodium could heat another medium which is then transferred to the water/steam component - sort of a buffer step - might be more reliable.
No reason why it couldn't -- the Soviets used molten lead/bismuth (basically solder) as a high-temp coolant in some reactors.
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Yep. Navy tried a liquid sodium cooled reactor on the original USS Seawolf (attack sub) back in the late 50's. Decided it wasn't a good idea for pretty much the same reasons.
Plenty of cooling water available in the immediate area.
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Plenty of cooling water available in the immediate area.
Ummm, using seawater to directly cool a reactor is probably the worst idea ever.
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Ummm, using seawater to directly cool a reactor is probably the worst idea ever.
Is that what he wrote?
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Is that what he wrote?
No its not, but I didn't know any better, anyway. I was just musing about the vast quantities of water just outside the hull---well hopefully outside the hull.
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Most vessels use seawater as a heat exchanger coolant. A nuke is just a fancy boiler. I imagine it has the equivalent of a steam exhaust condenser.

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