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Old 12-13-2012, 02:23 PM
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In your proposed example you will run the Windows 7 OS and use it at least for running the Windows XP os. All by itself, that guarantees most of your 8 GB of RAM will be occupied before you open any applications.
..........positively amazing.

It's no wonder that a brand new machine never seems to give the expected speed. I know that this one certainly did not. Most apps take 10 seconds to load.

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Old 12-13-2012, 02:26 PM
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In your proposed example you will run the Windows 7 OS and use it at least for running the Windows XP os. All by itself, that guarantees most of your 8 GB of RAM will be occupied before you open any applications.

Add to this that by design Windows will try to preserve as much RAM as it can and you’ll find that 8 GB will be not quite what you’re hoping for. 16 GB will do all the above plus leave elbow room for instances of many widely used applications.
One last question:

If I install an older version of Office (Office 2007), will this, by definition, need to run in "virtual XP" because it's 32 bit?

To avoid this would necessitate the latest MS offering (2010)????

It's not a bad price from Dell ($149.)

Not worth running in virtual XP for the next five years if I can avoid it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:49 PM
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Brian, if there is a Solid State Hard Disk addon option from Dell, jump on it. For the price, they certainly dont hold much but I got a 128gb for 80 bucks. Installed my OS and a few choice programs on it... you will be amazed.

End result is programs basically opening up instantly, and startup times (at least for me) below the 10 second range.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:57 PM
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Have you tried Windows Movie Maker? It was installed (bundled) on my computer and works very well with my older Cannon
Thanks...I forgot about that program. I found it easily on my Win 7 machines, but this laptop has Win 8 installed over 7, and I'm still trying to get used to it. Win 8 is definitely made for a touch screen device, which would make navigating it much easier.
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Brian, if there is a Solid State Hard Disk addon option from Dell, jump on it. For the price, they certainly dont hold much but I got a 128gb for 80 bucks. Installed my OS and a few choice programs on it... you will be amazed.

End result is programs basically opening up instantly, and startup times (at least for me) below the 10 second range.
There is...........but, it's another $250. for it.

I'll probably go the route of additional RAM, which is considerably less, and see how it goes.
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OK, here goes:

32-bit Windows 7 will run most 16-bit programs natively
64-bit Windows 7 needs the Virtual XP machine to do so. This is available in the Professional version and above.

Office 2007 will run without virtual XP, since it's generally a 32-bit program, not a 16-bit program.
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Office 2007 will run without virtual XP, since it's generally a 32-bit program, not a 16-bit program.
Please explain:

A 32 bit program can run on a 64 bit machine..........with no issues?

Any benefit to Office 2010 on a x64 versus Office 2007?
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Yep, a 32-bit program will run on Windows x64 with no issues. (This is a "Windows" issue, not an "OS" or "machine" issue to be clear.)
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Yep, a 32-bit program will run on Windows x64 with no issues. (This is a "Windows" issue, not an "OS" or "machine" issue to be clear.)
Thanks. Potentially, I can use Office 2007 in the new machine...........saves the purchase of Office 2010.
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Thanks. Potentially, I can use Office 2007 in the new machine...........saves the purchase of Office 2010.
Not only potentially but really.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:32 PM
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There is...........but, it's another $250. for it.

I'll probably go the route of additional RAM, which is considerably less, and see how it goes.
Wow. Talk about markup. Is it a 256gb?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:59 PM
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Wow. Talk about markup. Is it a 256gb?
Nope.........it's only a 128GB. But, I was wrong on the price..........only a paltry $204 additional over the 250GB 3.5" SATA.

Any benefit to pay more for the 2.5" drives?
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:10 AM
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No, but SSDs are all 2.5" AFAIK. Yea i wouldn't go for it at that price. You can always add one later.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:04 AM
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No, but SSDs are all 2.5" AFAIK. Yea i wouldn't go for it at that price. You can always add one later.
Not SSD.

They offer both 2.5 and 3.5 SATA drives. The 2.5's are more costly.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:49 AM
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..........positively amazing.

It's no wonder that a brand new machine never seems to give the expected speed. I know that this one certainly did not. Most apps take 10 seconds to load.
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