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I might give it a try. Controlling depth is a bit of a problem, however. It's quite difficult to gauge how far the bit is travelling. |
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You almost need something like an ice pick in which the tip has been bent 45 degrees to insert between the electrode and the ring of metal to bend up the metal to the point where needle nose pliers can get a purchase on that metal and tear and pry it out in pieces.
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Wow! What a mess! I wish I had a good idea for you.
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The problem is the shiny surface outside the hex. This is the area where I need the pick to attempt to lift that material. The problem is that the available area is very small. I estimate that the distance from the hex flats of the plug to the casting isn't more than .150" I need to be very careful not to damage the hex flats of the plug, or the game is completely over. |
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Now, in 60 years of wrenching, I know you've had to suffer some type of similar fate...........and the machinist bailed you out............so, spill the beans.
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If I'm interpreting the picture correctly, there seems to be a space at the bottom where the heat shield is not intact? Maybe at 5 o'clock or so. Is that where the split in the heat shield originally existed? I think I'd try drilling into that area first
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But, if I try the drill, I'll drill several holes all the way around. Then follow it up with the hole saw hoping for it to break up. |
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Carbide tipped hole saws source
These folk manufacture and sell them
Carbide Tipped Hole Saws Reading about this problem I was wondering if the 7/8" OD hole saw's ID fits over the 13/16" spark plug body flats, or did you accidently saw them off and now you are down to the cylinder head metal? |
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Is it impossible to squeeze a dremmel tool in there?
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The 1/8" shaft is a problem...........the reach is a bit too far.
Additionally, I'd be concerned with what insert to use with the dremel. Bump into those corners on the plug and the game is over. I think I'll try a 3/32 drill bit and put it down in about 10 places and see what I get. |
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multiple pilot holes, as many as you can get, and then the hole saw...
sounds like a workable plan. theoretically the heat shield is much softer material, so you will know by feel when you have punched through.... no matter how you slice it, you're deep into a shi**y job. keep the faith, I'm sure you will persevere. the dremel idea, maybe a small diameter chainsaw sharpening bit with the flexible extension.... you could ream around the outside of the hole, hopefully avoiding the hex of the plug... I have the extension and said bits (leftover from a fairly miraculous skidsteer axle removal) if you think you could make them work, just say the word.
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In general, if attempting to get an intact heat shield out, I'd try to induce a significant temperature differential between the shield and the head. Probably get the head hot by running the engine with the radiator partly blocked and then put dry ice on the heat shield to break it free from the head.
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maybe if you could get a small enough cylindrical file or a rat tail file that works with a drill you might be able to grind away the extra material
google cylindrical file also look at the images section for this search same for cylindrical file burr same for rat tail file same for conical file this site has some stuff that might help - reaming tools and similar http://www.aliexpress.com/compare/compare-drill-bits-reamers.html Most heat shielding I’ve seen is aluminum or similar and pretty soft so it would come away easily with a small but strong enough grinding tool |
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You should have seen some of the stupid a$$ crap they pulled on this Jeep diesel... most of it long since modded by myself to something that ACTUALLY WORKS! ![]()
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