Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3067569)

Not to dis your idea, but having been around rent a cops, I'm not sure I'd trust the lives of children to them. Most places that hire them, hire only ONE. A well placed head shot would eliminate them whereas the nut jobs would have a more difficult time in taking out a school full of armed teachers. As soon as the school alarm is sounded, all teachers except for the one that is in the room with Mr. Whacko escort the children out of the building. That teacher engages the nut and keeps him occupied knowing that the other teachers are on their way back into the building to partake in some enjoyable target shooting.

Place the whacko's shot up body in front of the school with a sign: "This is how we deal with sickos". Leave the body in front of the school for a full week so that the media can get plenty of news coverage.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3067569)

As soon as the school alarm is sounded, all teachers except for the one that is in the room with Mr. Whacko escort the children out of the building. That teacher engages the nut and keeps him occupied knowing that the other teachers are on their way back into the building to partake in some enjoyable target shooting. .

Originally Posted by raymr (Post 3067502)

There has to be a way to flag these individuals and pull them out of the mainstream BEFORE they cause harm. Then build some nice new facilities to house them and take advantage of all those psychology degrees that aren't being put to use.

On a different note, I can see in this case how he had easy access to firearms. But how do some of these guys, who are in their teens or early 20's, build up huge arsenals without anyone noticing? Anybody who buys a bullet proof vest should be on some kind of national register and be checked out once in a while.

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3067594)

Far easier to regulate the distribution of weapons.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3067569)

Not to dis your idea, but having been around rent a cops, I'm not sure I'd trust the lives of children to them. Most places that hire them, hire only ONE. A well placed head shot would eliminate them whereas the nut jobs would have a more difficult time in taking out a school full of armed teachers. As soon as the school alarm is sounded, all teachers except for the one that is in the room with Mr. Whacko escort the children out of the building. That teacher engages the nut and keeps him occupied knowing that the other teachers are on their way back into the building to partake in some enjoyable target shooting.

Place the whacko's shot up body in front of the school with a sign: "This is how we deal with sickos". Leave the body in front of the school for a full week so that the media can get plenty of news coverage.

Originally Posted by raymr (Post 3067584)

LOL.

Asking a 22 year old young woman to be a nurturing presence for tikes AND be ready at a moments notice to take out a heavily armed (and likely armored) individual is a pretty tall order, don't you think? I think you have in mind an Israeli style system where everyone goes to military camp to learn how to use firearms.

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3067597)

You don't trust a rent a cop but you trust a 20 something teacher? Anyone else see a disconnect?

Originally Posted by retmil46 (Post 3067601)

A thought comes to mind....

Instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with our society, where such events take place, and trying to figure out a solution based on that alone...

Perhaps look at a few other countries where guns are quite prevalent, but these types of incidents are seemingly rare or unheard of...

A recent thread or news article on Switzerland, where everyone must do X number of years compulsory service in the militia or military when they come of age - and during that time keep and maintain a military grade infantry rifle, in their personal possession...

Yet, unless the media is completely ignoring it, similar incidents in Switzerland are unheard of....

What are the differences between our country and Switzerland, such that they can have a high number of weapons floating about - not just handguns, sporting rifles, and shotguns, but military grade weapons - but yet remain seemingly free of such tragedies?

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3067517)

If we strip away pure emotion and get down to analytical logic the deal comes down to this: We cannot control A (nut jobs), however, we can control B (ourselves). If every teacher was armed and well trained in the use of deadly force, they would be in a position to stop the carnage at the point of invasion. Bolt bullet proof desks to the floors of each class room. Install a digital security lock on a desk drawer which houses a high capacity hand gun. Require that teachers attend firearms training monthly. Post the teacher's targets/shooting scores in the front entry of the school.

Why all this? Because it is true, a pussy will seek out a venue where they know no defense will be presented, i.e. a "gun free" zone. These pussies know that in a school, they will face very little opposition. Obviously, we are at war and there is an enemy that MUST be dealt with. Banning guns, limiting the amount of ammunition etc etc. are all band aids.

If these whacko psychotic nut jobs are looking to go out in a blaze of glory, give them what they want, only don't allow them take out innocents in the process.

Originally Posted by retmil46 (Post 3067601)

A thought comes to mind....

Instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with our society, where such events take place, and trying to figure out a solution based on that alone...

Perhaps look at a few other countries where guns are quite prevalent, but these types of incidents are seemingly rare or unheard of...

A recent thread or news article on Switzerland, where everyone must do X number of years compulsory service in the militia or military when they come of age - and during that time keep and maintain a military grade infantry rifle, in their personal possession...

Yet, unless the media is completely ignoring it, similar incidents in Switzerland are unheard of....

What are the differences between our country and Switzerland, such that they can have a high number of weapons floating about - not just handguns, sporting rifles, and shotguns, but military grade weapons - but yet remain seemingly free of such tragedies?

Originally Posted by MBlovr (Post 3067616)

Nice world you are creating for our children. This stuff didn't happen when I was in school. Why now?

Originally Posted by retmil46 (Post 3067601)

A thought comes to mind....

Instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with our society, where such events take place, and trying to figure out a solution based on that alone...

Perhaps look at a few other countries where guns are quite prevalent, but these types of incidents are seemingly rare or unheard of...

A recent thread or news article on Switzerland, where everyone must do X number of years compulsory service in the militia or military when they come of age - and during that time keep and maintain a military grade infantry rifle, in their personal possession...

Yet, unless the media is completely ignoring it, similar incidents in Switzerland are unheard of....

What are the differences between our country and Switzerland, such that they can have a high number of weapons floating about - not just handguns, sporting rifles, and shotguns, but military grade weapons - but yet remain seemingly free of such tragedies?

Originally Posted by MBlovr (Post 3067616)

Nice world you are creating for our children. This stuff didn't happen when I was in school. Why now?

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 3067622)

What world is that, the real world? I'm talking about the REAL world, a world that appears to be occupied by whackos and nut jobs.... Granted there are a lot of nice people, but children also need to be made aware that there are some certified psychos out there and learn to recognize the signs.