Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3068159)

No, that is not the only reason. May be the reason that you fear most while you sit in the dark with foil headgear and clean the guns....;)This goes beyond the shooter at Sandy Hook. This is to address the vast numbers of illegal and unregistered weapons floating about on our city streets.

Guns should be as regulated as cars, especially as so many like to point out how dangerous cars are.....;)

I bet pieces of paper have saved WAY more lives than guns.

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3068134)

Time for complete firearm registration.
Possessing an unregistered weapon, serious consequences, prison time.
Having your weapon used in a crime by any person and you are on the hook as well.
Accidental shootings due to negligence revokes your right to own firearms.
Sales of unregistered weapons, huge prison time.

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3068163)

This thread is intellectually dishonest for another reason.

We all know that our elected officials don't write legislation. Lobbyists and staff for monied interests write laws and pay (bribe) our representatives to propose them and vote for them.

If legislation is passed it will be in the best interests of the monied powers that be and to hell with the people and thier kids.

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3068147)

Not intending to take anything.
Register what you got or take your chances.
All new sales, registered.

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3068164)

This is a personal attack just the same as if I said you should STFU and quit being an as$hole.

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3068171)

You propose to take my freedom, guaranteed by the contract of citizenship and tempered by the lives of many people to protect that contract and the people who hold it.

Come and get them.

Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3068157)

I've never been shot at directly. When I was around 15 years old I was in a large crowd, approximately 250 yards from me I saw a car driving full speed in to the crowd aiming straight for me. Everything was in slow motion, saw the driver looking at me, saw the female passenger screaming in panic next to him, saw people flying in to the air. I couldn't move, I was just standing there looking at the event in front of me. Was it not for someone pulling me out of harms way I would have been dead or injured.

I always think about that event when something like this happens; what would I do now? I don't think it would be much different and I'm pretty sure that's for most of us, armed or not.

Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3068145)

A few home made pipe bomb knives?

Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3068166)

Do you honestly think that registering the firearms would have kept this asshat from stealing his mother's guns, killing her and then killing everyone at the school?? "Oh, gee, I guess I really shouldn't kill anyone with those guns, they're registered". Does registering guns keep them from being operated by crazed lunatics?

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3068173)

Where did I propose to take your freedom?
or your guns?

Back to that 'rational discussion' thingy...

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3068179)

No, I was onto the greater topic of where do we go as a society.(see post 614) A society in which I would like to retain my ability to own firearms.

Registering firearms is a way to help dry up the supply lines of unregistered weapons filling our cities.

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3068149)

By golly, I'm impressed! So much psychology, so few facts!

Here are some facts that might be fun for you to consider:
8% of violent crimes are committed with firearms (not broken down by type -- too bad).
6% by knife (not broken down by type -- too bad).
7% by blunt objects (not broken down by type -- too bad).
73% by NO WEAPON

Apparently people really do use their giant penis extenders to commit violent crime more than they use either guns or knives.

Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) - Weapon Use by Offense Type

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3068180)

I agree with Twitchkitty.

History clearly demonstrates that the government steps through a process of control of private ownership of firearms. First is registry. Last is seizure. It has never gone the other way. Doesn't it make you curious why governments don't ever seek to increase the freedom of its citizens?

We measure congressional success by how many laws they pass. Does that not frighten you just a bit?

Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3068150)

The fact that gun control provably does not work means nothing in here.