Actually not bad. And it has strong historical precedence. The Code of Hammurabi is recognized as the first Building Code. It specified that if you built a house for someone, and it fell, injuring or killing someone, you got the same as your punishment....killed the Owner--you die; killed his first-born son--your first-born son dies and so on. ( It might have even covered wives and slaves--but I don't know)

Its about the same now....anything goes wrong though instead of killing you they just sue your shorts off!:P

:laughing: Yeah, I guess history really does repeat itself! :laughing:

Maybe this lady just didn't contemplate how dangerous her guns were. Living in a safe area, maybe she only saw the sport aspect and not the kill aspect. Maybe she presumed her son saw them the same way. "Who would ever use my guns to kill anybody?"

True, but wouldn't there be value in analyzing this womans actions, and on those of them that served to make this atrocity easier to commit, and seeking to see how other suburban folk who use the weapons for sporting purposes might alter their own behavior to make repeat disasters less possible?

I think Raymr is exactly correct-

Im thinking she was a woman who loved her son, was a decent law abiding person, and the thought would have never crossed her mind that such a thing could have happened. Now she is being harshly judged on a few actions, her storage of the weapons and training of her son, which is unfair taken from the rest of her life, but we have to be unfair when so many other people can be hurt from a few little seemingly harmless decisions at the time

this lady is being villianized by some because she made the statement to a friend she did not like leaving the son alone. The leap was made that she was afraid he would hurt someone. There are many reasons she may have had for not leaving him alone.

Agreed! It is quite common for people to take the words of others in different ways. Now, even a mindreader couldn't tell you what she actually meant by that.

There are already laws which limit freedom of speech.

You want that we should repeal those?

Back to the point of the OP.

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Charlotte Bacon, 6

They were supposed to be for the holidays, but finally on Friday, after hearing much begging, Charlotte Bacon's mother relented and let her wear the new pink dress and boots to school. It was the last outfit the outgoing redhead would ever pick out. Charlotte's older brother, Guy, was also in the school but was not shot. Her parents, JoAnn and Joel, had lived in Newtown for four or five years, JoAnn's brother John Hagen, of Nisswa, Minn., told Newsday. "She was going to go some places in this world," Hagen told the newspaper. "This little girl could light up the room for anyone."

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Daniel Barden, 7

Daniel's family says he was "fearless in the pursuit of happiness in life." He was the youngest of three children and in a statement to the media, his family said Daniel earned his missing two front teeth and ripped jeans. "Words really cannot express what a special boy Daniel was. Such a light. Always smiling, unfailingly polite, incredibly affectionate, fair and so thoughtful towards others, imaginative in play, both intelligent and articulate in conversation: in all, a constant source of laughter and joy," the family said. His father, Mark, is a local musician. The New Haven Register reported the father had been scheduled to play a show at a restaurant Friday in Danbury that was later canceled. On the biography on his professional website, Mark Barden lists spending time with his family as his favorite activity.

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Rachel D'Avino, 29

Days before the Connecticut shooting rampage, Rachel D'Avino's boyfriend had asked her parents for permission to marry her. D'Avino was a behavioral therapist who had only recently started working at the school, according to friend Lissa Lovetere Stone. D'Avino's boyfriend, Anthony Cerritelli, planned to ask her to marry him on Christmas Eve. Stone said she met D'Avino in 2005 when D'Avino was assigned to her son, who has autism, in their town of Bethlehem, CT. D'Avino was so dedicated she would make home visits and frequently offer guidance on handling situations such as helping her son deal with loud music at a wedding. "Her job didn't end when the school bell rang at 3 o'clock," Stone said. Police told her family that she shielded one of the students during the rampage, Stone said. "I'm heartbroken. I'm numb," Stone said. "I think she taught me more about how to be a good mother to a special needs child than anyone else ever had."

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Olivia Engel, 6

Images of Olivia Rose Engel show a happy child, one with a great sense of humor, as her family said in a statement. There she is, visiting with Santa Claus, or feasting on a slice of birthday cake. Or swinging a pink baseball bat, posing on a boat, or making a silly face. Olivia loved school, did very well in math and reading, and was "insightful for her age," said the statement released by her uncle, John Engel. She was a child who "lit up a room and the people around her." Creative with drawing and designing, she was also a tennis and soccer player and took art classes, swimming, and dance lessons in ballet and hip hop. A Daisy Girl Scout, she enjoyed musical theater. "She was a great big sister and was always very patient with her 3-year-old brother, Brayden," her family said, recalling that her favorite colors were purple and pink. Olivia was learning the rosary and always led grace before the family dinner. "She was a grateful child who was always appreciative and never greedy," the family said. Her father said she was a 6-year-old who had a lot to look forward to. Dan Merton, a longtime friend of the girl's family, recalled that she loved attention, had perfect manners and was a teacher's pet. "Her only crime," he said, "is being a wiggly, smiley 6-year-old."

Never said it had to be a fire safe. I could care less what happens to your guns when your house burns down. But a fireman working in the blackness of a house fire, crawling around the floor, trying to rescue people in the home, does not need to encounter loaded weapons.

$800..... and how much did the last weapon you purchased cost?
Again, the hang up seems to be the money...

hmmmm a gun safe, or another weapon....

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Avielle Richman, 6

The curly-headed little girl known as Avie Richman loved a lot of things. Horses. Harry Potter. The color red. She tried archery after watching the Disney movie "Brave." She told her parents that her dream car was a minivan. To reward her for reading over the summer, they took her to lunch. Avie had moved to Sandy Hook from San Diego about two years ago with her parents, Jeremy Richman and Jennifer Hensel. "They still call Avielle their California girl," Melissa C. Stewart, a family friend, told the San Diego Union-Tribune. "When they first moved here, it was hard to keep shoes on Avielle because she was so used to running barefoot on the beach in San Diego." In a blog called "Avielle's Adventures," Jeremy Richman would tell friends about their family life: trips to the Thanksgiving Day parade in Stamford, Arielle's 6th birthday at the horse stable and a road trip to Iowa. In August, he wrote about the newest milestone for his "little hummingbird," who was about to start first grade. "We can't believe it," he wrote. "Jenn and I are both very nervous and excited."

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Josephine Gay, 7

Josephine Gay had turned seven just three days before the shooting. On Monday, purple balloons - her favorite color - sprouted from the family mailbox and those of all her neighbors. In the back of the yellow house on a quiet cul-de-sac sat a jungle gym. "'Joey' is a beautiful little girl, may she never be forgotten and live forever in our hearts," wrote Polly Larsen, of Sunnyvale, Calif., on Facebook. She said she was close friends with the cousin of Josephine's mother.

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Dawn Hochsprung, 47

Dawn Hochsprung's pride in Sandy Hook Elementary was clear. She regularly tweeted photos from her time as principal there, giving indelible glimpses of life at a place now known for tragedy. Days before the shooting, she had tweeted an image of fourth-graders rehearsing for their winter concert; days before that, the tiny hands of kindergartners exchanging play money at their makeshift grocery store. She viewed her school as a model, telling The Newtown Bee in 2010 that "I don't think you could find a more positive place to bring students to every day." She had worked to make Sandy Hook a place of safety, too, and in October, the 47-year-old Hochsprung shared a picture of the school's evacuation drill with the message "safety first." When the unthinkable came, she was ready to defend. Officials said she died while lunging at the gunman in an attempt to overtake him. "She had an extremely likable style about her," said Gerald Stomski, first selectman of Woodbury, where Hochsprung lived and had taught. "She was an extremely charismatic principal while she was here."

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Dylan Hockley, 6

The Hockley family moved to Sandy Hook two years ago from England, in love with the sense of community and the elementary school that their boys, Dylan and Jake, would attend. Dylan's mother, Nicole, is American, and his father, Ian, is British. They moved into a house on the same street as the mother of the shooter, Adam Lanza. In a statement, the family said their youngest boy had thrived at Sandy Hook. "We do not and shall never regret this choice," the Hockleys said. "Our boys have flourished here, and our family's happiness has been limitless." Dylan had a beaming smile. He played tag every morning at the bus stop with neighbors, bounced on the trampoline and played computer games. He loved purple, chocolate and seeing the moon. He was learning to read and was proud to show off his new skills to his parents. Jake was his best friend and role model. "We love you Mister D," the Hockleys wrote in their statement. Dylan also adored his teacher's aide, Anne Marie Murphy, and would point to her picture on the family fridge every day. They took great comfort, they said, in knowing that when Dylan died, he was wrapped in Murphy's arms. She also died.

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Madeleine Hsu, 6

Madeleine Hsu was shy and quiet - but she would light up around dogs. Karen Dryer, who lived on the same street as the Hsu family, would see Madeleine's mom waiting for her at the bus stop at 3:15 every afternoon. Dryer would wait too, for her son Logan, who is in kindergarten. Dryer usually brought the family's golden retriever with her. "She would come off the bus and her face would light up when she saw the dog," Dryer said. Her mom would give her a big squeeze, and Madeleine would hug her little sister. "She was just an absolute doll," Dryer said. "She seemed very shy, but she was just so sweet."

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Catherine Hubbard, 6

Catherine's parents released a statement expressing gratitude to emergency responders and for the support of the community. "We are greatly saddened by the loss of our beautiful daughter, Catherine Violet and our thoughts and prayers are with the other families who have been affected by this tragedy," Jennifer and Matthew Hubbard said. "We ask that you continue to pray for us and the other families who have experienced loss in this tragedy."

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Chase Kowalski, 7

Chase Kowalski was always outside, playing in the backyard, riding his bicycle. Just days before the shooting, he was visiting neighbor Kevin Grimes, telling him about completing - and winning - his first mini-triathlon. "You couldn't think of a better child," Grimes said. Grimes' own five children all attended Sandy Hook, too.

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Jesse Lewis, 6

Six-year-old Jesse Lewis had hot chocolate with his favorite breakfast sandwich - sausage, egg and cheese - at the neighborhood deli before going to school the day of the shooting. Jesse and his parents were regulars at the Misty Vale Deli in Sandy Hook, CT, owner Angel Salazar told The Wall Street Journal. "He was always friendly; he always liked to talk," Salazar said. Jesse's family has a collection of animals he enjoyed playing with, and he was learning to ride horseback. Family friend Barbara McSperrin told the Journal that Jesse was "a typical six-year-old little boy, full of life."

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Ana Marquez-Greene, 6

A year ago, 6-year-old Ana Marquez-Greene was reveling in holiday celebrations with her extended family on her first trip to Puerto Rico. This year will be heartbreakingly different. The girl's grandmother, Elba Marquez, said the family moved to Connecticut just two months ago, drawn from Canada, in part, by Sandy Hook's sterling reputation. Her father is saxophonist Jimmy Greene, who wrote on Facebook that he was trying to "work through this nightmare." "As much as she's needed here and missed by her mother, brother and me, Ana beat us all to paradise," he wrote. "I love you sweetie girl."

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James Mattioli, 6

James Mattioli especially loved recess and math, and his family described him as a "numbers guy" who came up with insights beyond his years to explain the relationship between numbers. He particularly loved the concept of googolplex, which a friend taught him. He was born four weeks before his due date, and his family often joked that he came into the world early because he was hungry. They wrote in his obituary that 6-year-old James, fondly called 'J,' loved hamburgers with ketchup, his Dad's omelets with bacon, and his Mom's French toast. He often asked to stop at Subway and wanted to know how old he needed to be to order a footlong sandwich. He loved sports and wore shorts and T-shirts no matter the weather. He was a loud and enthusiastic singer and once asked, "How old do I have to be to sing on a stage?" His family recalled that he was an early-riser who was always ready to get up and go. He and his older sister were the best of friends. He was a thoughtful and considerate child, recently choosing to forgo a gift for himself and use the money to buy his grandfather a mug for Christmas.

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Grace McDonnell, 7

With broken hearts, the parents of Grace Audrey McDonnell said they couldn't believe the outpouring of support they've received since the little girl who was the center of their lives died in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Lynn and Chris McDonnell called their 7-year-old daughter "the love and light" of their family in a statement released by the little girl's uncle. The family also shared a photo featuring Grace smiling into the camera, her eyes shining and a pink bow adorning her long blonde hair. "Words cannot adequately express our sense of loss," the McDonnells said.

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Anne Marie Murphy, 52

A happy soul. A good mother, wife and daughter. Artistic, fun-loving, witty and hardworking. Remembering their daughter, Anne Marie Murphy, her parents had no shortage of adjectives. When news of the shooting broke, Hugh and Alice McGowan waited for word of their daughter as hours ticked by. And then it came. Authorities told the couple their daughter was a hero who helped shield some of her students from the rain of bullets. As the grim news arrived, the victim's mother reached for her rosary. "You don't expect your daughter to be murdered," her father said. "It happens on TV. It happens elsewhere."

Thanks for the posts Swamp! I'm glad you posted them in spite of the fact that my eyes are swelling and wet.

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Emilie Parker, 6

Quick to cheer up those in need of a smile, Emilie Parker never missed a chance to draw a picture or make a card. Her father, Robbie Parker, fought back tears as he described the beautiful, blond, always-smiling girl who loved to try new things, except foods. Parker, one of the first parents to publicly talk about his loss, expressed no animosity for the gunman, even as he struggled to explain the death to his other two children, ages 3 and 4. He's sustained by the fact that the world is better for having had Emilie in it. "I'm so blessed to be her dad," he said.

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Jack Pinto, 6

Jack Pinto was a huge New York Giants fan. Wide receiver Victor Cruz honored Jack on on his cleats, writing on them the words "Jack Pinto, My Hero" and "R.I.P. Jack Pinto." "I also spoke to an older brother and he was distraught as well. I told him to stay strong and I was going to do whatever I can to honor him," Cruz said after the Giant's game with the Atlanta Falcons. "He was fighting tears and could barely speak to me." Cruz said he planned to give the gloves he wore during the game to the boy's family, and spend some time with them. "There's no words that can describe the type of feeling that you get when a kid idolizes you so much that unfortunately they want to put him in the casket with your jersey on," he said. "I can't even explain it."

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Noah Pozner, 6

Noah was "smart as a whip," gentle but with a rambunctious streak, said his uncle, Alexis Haller of Woodinville, Wash. He was part of a big family. His twin sister, Arielle, assigned to a different classroom, survived the shooting. He called Arielle his best friend and loved her dearly, along with big sisters Danielle and Sophia and big brother Michael. "They were always playing together, they loved to do things together," Haller said. When his mother, a nurse, would tell him she loved him, he would answer, "Not as much as I love you, Mom.'" Haller said Noah loved to read and liked to figure out how things worked mechanically. He was already a very good reader. He loved animals, video games and Nintendo's Mario Brothers characters. Noah was looking forward to reading a new "Ninjago" book he'd just bought at a book fair. He was also very excited about going to a birthday party he had been invited to. It was to take place the day after the shooting. "He was just a really lively, smart kid," Haller said. "He would have become a great man, I think. He would have grown up to be a great dad."

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Caroline Previdi, 6

"Silly Caroline" Previdi had an infectious grin and a giving heart. Karen Dryer, a neighbor, remembered how Caroline would ride the bus with her son, Logan, when he got scared. She'd sit with him, make sure he felt safe, and play peek-a-boo over the seat to distract him. "My son refers to her as 'Silly Caroline,'" said Dryer, who is still wrestling with how to talk to her son about the shootings. "She's just a girl that was always smiling, always wanting others to smile." "Caroline Phoebe Previdi was a blessing from God and brought joy to everyone she touched," her parents, Jeff and Sandy Previdi, said in a statement. "We know that she is looking down on us from Heaven." Family friend David Sutch, who lives in Brookfield, Mo., described the Previdis as loving and compassionate, always having other children over to the house, willing to befriend anyone.