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This "high leg delta" setup provides the 180 degree out of phase hot leads that I mentioned above.





Notice the two 120 waveforms are exactly 180 degree out of phase.

That is an older type set up. The newer ones dont have the high leg. The main reason is if you(as an elelctrician) put a 120V load on the High leg you would cook it. Unfortunatly because of the cost involved the older areas,with rreguards to the grid, are still running this set up.

I work in a new, not even in comercial operation yet, plant.

That set up is because the way the transformers are constructed internally. Wye Wye wound transformers have a single center point with three "legs" coming off of them, similar to the mercedes star. What that does is gives a uniform voltage across all three legs. 120 or 240.

The older style have a Delta(triangle) with a wye. This is how you can get the set up referenced above. Depending on where the "ground, or Nuetral" is tapped in will you different voltages

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

The high leg is not provided to any residence.

The result at the residence is as I previously stated. The two hot lines are 180 degree out of phase and measure 120V to the neutral.

As far as three phase, they waves are always 120 degrees apart. All of those motors dont need starting capacitors due to wiring. Because they are only at the most 60 degrees away from a high point. I only deal with the three phase stuff which is why I had to go get my book out.

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

Not supposed to be that is. Strange things have happened when these transformers have been replaced.

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

Yes, we both know that the three phases are 120 degrees apart and that some clever machinations are necessary to get 120V single phase with 240V across the two supplied hot lines.

But, the point of the discussion, which is now settled, is the fact that nearly all residences in the US are provided with this type of setup.

..........because there was a moron involved...........

Would it be because there are some industrial buildings close by that might require three phase?

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Very possible.

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

Well Paid morons I might add

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86 300SDL. 250,xxx on #14 Head. One eye always on temp gauge.. Cruising towards 300K

All industrial buildings are supplied with three phase.............usually 240V three phase or 480V three phase.

Depending on the building setup and transformer available, they can get 120V from the 240V system via the use of a center tap as shown above.

In my world, only squints use 208v.

Us audio guys like our balanced 240v.

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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and then we add 277vac to the mix to help everyones sanity.

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1985 300D 198K sold
1982 300D 202K
1989 300E 125K
1992 940T

"If you dont have time to do it safely, you dont have time to do it"

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

All I wanted to know was how to plug in the toaster......

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1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags

One nice feature of this system is that when one leg blows, you have half of your electricity but the meter doesn't work

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13