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I have wondered for years why Conservatives are happy to pass on E-mails when they have no clue as to the accuracy of the information they contain.

My favorites ones always start with, "I don't know if this is true, but....."

I guess they think they are serving some higher good or something, but if anyone is reduced to spreading lies in order to push their agenda then they don't have much of an agenda to begin with.

I guess they are going for the old 'swaying of popular opinion' thing. The bad part of all of this is when they start thinking the stories they are telling are true.

That sure tripped up Romney during one of the debates. It was a sort of poetic justice that the Republican lie machine was one of the big reason Romney tripped over his own tongue.

So you are saying that only conservatives do such things?

BTW, now that Emanuel went back to Chicago, the repubs might indeed have an edge in the lie count.

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My favorite quote is, "Movin' on up to a de-lux apartment, in the sky!"
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:10 AM
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We don't elect people to be great private citizens but have them be great public servants.
Jefferson's weakness in economics was reflected in his public policy as president. Read up on the fallout from his trade embargo of 1807-1808. It caused widespread economic hardship and civil disobedience in the form of smuggling. And, it sapped federal tax revenues.

His party also pushed for the dissolution of the country's first central bank, founded in 1791 under the influence of Alexander Hamilton. The bank's charter lapsed in 1811. When war arrived in 1812, the country lacked the financial resources to protect itself.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:41 AM
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We are not really that worried about Jefferson here in Texas. The Texas school board removed him from certain sections of the the text books in Mar of 2010 only to reinstate him in May when there was an out cry.


Got to love this place.... I'm just glad I don't have kids going to school in this state. I'd have to home school them.
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Wasn't he also quoted with saying something like "OOH Baby, gimme some of that chocolate sugar"?
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We are not really that worried about Jefferson here in Texas. The Texas school board removed him from certain sections of the the text books in Mar of 2010 only to reinstate him in May when there was an out cry.


Got to love this place.... I'm just glad I don't have kids going to school in this state. I'd have to home school them.

The school system isn't supplying enough liberal indoctrination for you? That's really saying something. The public schools, even in Texas, are a hot bed of liberal indoctrination.
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Wasn't he also quoted with saying something like "OOH Baby, gimme some of that chocolate sugar"?

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Old 01-04-2013, 10:24 AM
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The school system isn't supplying enough liberal indoctrination for you? That's really saying something. The public schools, even in Texas, are a hot bed of liberal indoctrination.
But the schools in Texas could correct that if they would just issue the new textbooks written by the Conservatives on the School Book Comm. They issued new guidelines for history and science books that were ridiculed nationwide by Teachers as nothing but Conservative propaganda, but that did not stop Texas from adopting them.

If only Gov. Perry had left any money in the Education fund the books could have been printed and right now all the school children in Texas could be living in a Conservative Paradise. But after his funding cuts there is no money left for new books.

So I guess the take away here is that Perry is responsible for the Liberal indoctrination of Texas school children?
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:28 AM
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But the schools in Texas could correct that if they would just issue the new textbooks written by the Conservatives on the School Book Comm. They issued new guidelines for history and science books that were ridiculed nationwide by Teachers as nothing but Conservative propaganda, but that did not stop Texas from adopting them.

If only Gov. Perry had left any money in the Education fund the books could have been printed and right now all the school children in Texas could be living in a Conservative Paradise. But after his funding cuts there is no money left for new books.

So I guess the take away here is that Perry is responsible for the Liberal indoctrination of Texas school children?
I always knew that guy was a pinko.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:36 AM
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So you are saying that only conservatives do such things?

BTW, now that Emanuel went back to Chicago, the repubs might indeed have an edge in the lie count.
So you are defending Conservatives that do?
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But the schools in Texas could correct that if they would just issue the new textbooks written by the Conservatives on the School Book Comm. They issued new guidelines for history and science books that were ridiculed nationwide by Teachers as nothing but Conservative propaganda, but that did not stop Texas from adopting them.

If only Gov. Perry had left any money in the Education fund the books could have been printed and right now all the school children in Texas could be living in a Conservative Paradise. But after his funding cuts there is no money left for new books.

So I guess the take away here is that Perry is responsible for the Liberal indoctrination of Texas school children?

A liberals definition of conservative propaganda is text/curriculum that does NOT provide liberal indoctrination.

Here's an idea for ya'. How about teaching with NO political indoctrination whatsoever? I'm sure that you and your liberal pals would never stand for that. Understandable though. Teaching the kids only FACTS would definitely inhibit the spreading of all the liberal horse chit.
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A liberals definition of conservative propaganda is text/curriculum that does NOT provide liberal indoctrination.

Here's an idea for ya'. How about teaching with NO political indoctrination whatsoever? I'm sure that you and your liberal pals would never stand for that. Understandable though. Teaching the kids only FACTS would definitely inhibit the spreading of all the liberal horse chit.
Do you believe that is what the TX board of Education was going for and got? Do you believe what was being taught was wrong and if so why?
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Do you believe that is what the TX board of Education was going for and got? Do you believe what was being taught was wrong and if so why?

What I DO believe is that the schools should teach verifiable FACT! Darwin is NOT fact. Global Warming is NOT fact. Teaching what Thomas Jefferson or any other historical figure FACTUALLY said is fine, but don't spin it with bias or speculation EITHER WAY. Teaching them the whats and whens of history is fine. Leave the opinions OUT!

Teaching proper English, spelling, mathematics, FACTUAL science etc. is what our schools should be teaching. Leave the politics and religion for them to learn from their parents or even the kids on the corner, but NOT promoted by schools EITHER WAY.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:18 AM
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A liberals definition of conservative propaganda is text/curriculum that does NOT provide liberal indoctrination.

Here's an idea for ya'. How about teaching with NO political indoctrination whatsoever? I'm sure that you and your liberal pals would never stand for that.
So now you are making excuses for Perry who talks a good Conservative line but has no ability to pull it off?

Anyway, teaching with NO political indoctrination IS the Liberal way. When I was in school we were taught that the Russians taught their children that the Commie way was best and this was derided as a terrible thing.

So if today students are taught to think for themselves Conservatives hate it. Conservatives seem to follow what old Joe Stalin thoughts of, "We don't allow our enemies to have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?"
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What I DO believe is that the schools should teach verifiable FACT! Darwin is NOT fact. Global Warming is NOT fact. Teaching what Thomas Jefferson or any other historical figure FACTUALLY said is fine, but don't spin it with bias or speculation EITHER WAY. Teaching them the whats and whens of history is fine. Leave the opinions OUT!

Teaching proper English, spelling, mathematics, FACTUAL science etc. is what our schools should be teaching. Leave the politics and religion for them to learn from their parents or even the kids on the corner, but NOT promoted by schools EITHER WAY.
Do you have a preferred list of redneck, socially-backward, religious nutjobs who can referee what is/is not FACTUAL science, or should we just let individual nutjob-infested Texas school boards make the call for their individual school districts?

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