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kerry · #**211** 01-17-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Just like God does. God looks at fetuses in wombs and makes decisions about whether he should allow them to come to term or not. If he decides they shouldn't, he aborts them. He calls upon women to follow him in adopting this same responsibility.

The Clk Man · #**212** 01-17-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Just like God does. God looks at fetuses in wombs and makes decisions about whether he should allow them to come to term or not. If he decides they shouldn't, he aborts them. He calls upon women to follow him in adopting this same responsibility.

The Lord allows us to make our own decisions. We, and we alone are responsible for our actions.

Jim B. · #**213** 01-17-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Yeah, if you're into murder, I suppose that works out quite well.

If PERCHANCE you are claiming that abortion is murder, then I think you are on a par with the people that assassinate Medical doctors that have performed abortions or those folks that firebomb the abortion clinics, to demonstrate .... something......

Such a truly elegant showcase for moral hypocrisy ....

kerry · #**214** 01-17-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

The Lord allows us to make our own decisions. We, and we alone are responsible for our actions.

You do know that the first clause was declared heretical many hundreds of years ago? Orthodox Christianity holds to the idea that all humans are born with original sin and incapable of making any good decisions of their own free will.
Pelagius agreed with you, but unfortunately, he lost the political battle.

Air&Road · #**215** 01-17-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

If PERCHANCE you are claiming that abortion is murder, then I think you are on a par with the people that assassinate Medical doctors that have performed abortions or those folks that firebomb the abortion clinics, to demonstrate .... something......

Such a truly elegant showcase for moral hypocrisy ....

That's a bit of a stretch. Accusing someone of condoning murder because they OPPOSE murder is quite an interesting connection.

martureo · #**216** 01-17-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Getting an abortion is one of the most responsible things a woman can do. To suggest otherwise is simply idiotic and unjust.

1) Risking death
2) Risking infection and infertility
3) Emotional scarring and psychological damage
4) Killing a human

Really? That's responsible?

What fantasy world do you live in?

EDIT: Although I noticed that, like normal, you've dodged the arguments put forward. You're about as useful as a gnat.

kerry · #**217** 01-17-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by martureo

1) Risking death
2) Risking infection and infertility
3) Emotional scarring and psychological damage
4) Killing a human

Exactly the risks of getting pregnant.

martureo · #**218** 01-17-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

If PERCHANCE you are claiming that abortion is murder, then I think you are on a par with the people that assassinate Medical doctors that have performed abortions or those folks that firebomb the abortion clinics, to demonstrate .... something......

Such a truly elegant showcase for moral hypocrisy ....

No, you've just managed to jump head on into a logical fallacy.

Abortion is murder. But only in YOUR crazy way have you equated someone against murder with someone for murder.

Sheesh....

martureo · #**219** 01-17-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Just like God does. God looks at fetuses in wombs and makes decisions about whether he should allow them to come to term or not. If he decides they shouldn't, he aborts them. He calls upon women to follow him in adopting this same responsibility.

Excuse me?

God is God, man is not. What part of that don't you understand?

We are not to act as God, we are not to take responsibility as He does.

Jim B. · #**220** 01-17-2013, 11:14 AM

Please also consider the Adoption Option.

kerry · #**221** 01-17-2013, 11:14 AM

Is Jesus your Lord and Savior=Are you with me in opposing women's rights?

martureo · #**222** 01-17-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

You do know that the first clause was declared heretical many hundreds of years ago? Orthodox Christianity holds to the idea that all humans are born with original sin and incapable of making any good decisions of their own free will.

....apart from the grace of God.

If you're going to try to debate Christians, you should at least know what they believe.

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Pelagius agreed with you, but unfortunately, he lost the political battle.

No, Pelagius believed man is able to save himself.

Oh wait.... I forgot you didn't understand Christianity.

kerry · #**223** 01-17-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by martureo

Excuse me?

God is God, man is not. What part of that don't you understand?

We are not to act as God, we are not to take responsibility as He does.

Here I was thinking you were a proponent of responsibility and taking seriously the responsibility which God assigned of being fruitful and mulitplying.

martureo · #**224** 01-17-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Exactly the risks of getting pregnant.

Hmmm... even if that were true aren't you forgetting something?

Pregnancy is something a woman's body was designed for, i.e. it's natural.

Abortion is NOT something natural, nor is it necessary.

martureo · #**225** 01-17-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Here I was thinking you were a proponent of responsibility

I am. But you are asking men to be gods.

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and taking seriously the responsibility which God assigned of being fruitful and mulitplying.

He commanded that.

EDIT: considering how this thread is going I expect two things to happen. 1) Aklim to demand that God show up, and use that demand to form his entire argument. 2) Kerry to dodge any argument thrown his way and change his argument at least four more times before the next two pages of this thread.

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