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Old 01-24-2013, 09:57 AM
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Apple stock

Down from what? 700 a few months ago to 460 today. They need to up their game and stop selling crippled iOS devices if they want to survive.

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Old 01-24-2013, 10:22 AM
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Ha! If every American company were doing as well as Apple, America would be in MUCH better shape. Don't confuse such vagaries as stock price with performance. Eventually the share price will be more reflective of the company's earnings, growth, and true value, but emotion is often a major factor in determining stock price in the short term.

I'm buying more shares today. By every reliable measure Apple is one of the most stunning success stories in business history.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:24 AM
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It's fun to watch, though. Here's to a rough, volatile, stock market in 2013. Chaos == opportunity.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:35 AM
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Don't buy Apple stock unless you like roller coaster rides. (The valuation is a screaming buy right now)
Apple stock has always been volatile; I owned Apple before the tech wreck of 1999. Bought @ $38
I woke up one morning to see my 'smart buy' a few days before has lost 40% of it's value in the low $20's. I sold and never got back in.... Of course in hindsight...
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:22 AM
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Yeah, it's a regular death spiral. I bought Apple between 20 and 30 dollars and have held it since. Other than buying some gun co. shares a year or so ago, it's my last connection to the silly stock market.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:10 PM
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Ha! If every American company were doing as well as Apple, America would be in MUCH better shape. Don't confuse such vagaries as stock price with performance. Eventually the share price will be more reflective of the company's earnings, growth, and true value, but emotion is often a major factor in determining stock price in the short term.

I'm buying more shares today. By every reliable measure Apple is one of the most stunning success stories in business history.
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he spends the first 10 minutes or so talking Apple.

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:35 PM
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Yeah, it's a regular death spiral. I bought Apple between 20 and 30 dollars and have held it since. Other than buying some gun co. shares a year or so ago, it's my last connection to the silly stock market.
Why didn't you sell when AAPL was high (which it still is relative to your basis) especially prior to this year when the cap gains tax increased? You're talking about a huge increase in price, even from $20 to $450.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:41 PM
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Ha! If every American company were doing as well as Apple, America would be in MUCH better shape. Don't confuse such vagaries as stock price with performance. Eventually the share price will be more reflective of the company's earnings, growth, and true value, but emotion is often a major factor in determining stock price in the short term.

I'm buying more shares today. By every reliable measure Apple is one of the most stunning success stories in business history.
Dee8go, you hit it on the head regarding emotion being the driving factor in stock prices. The company is definitely a commercial success story ($137B in cash?!?!) but the stock was overbought and is finally coming down toward sensible prices. I think it's still overpriced and not a good buy. Of course my opinion and $459 (for now) will buy you a share of AAPL.
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Ha! If every American company were doing as well as Apple, America would be in MUCH better shape. Don't confuse such vagaries as stock price with performance. Eventually the share price will be more reflective of the company's earnings, growth, and true value, but emotion is often a major factor in determining stock price in the short term.

I'm buying more shares today. By every reliable measure Apple is one of the most stunning success stories in business history.
pump and dump?
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:57 PM
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What goes up must come down. I'm sure a lot of people have made money with apple but to me it makes no sense. Things change so rapidly and looking to what happened to RIM, your fortune could be lost any day.
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Yes, look what happened to RIM . . . single product line like Nokia and Ericsson. The more apt comparison would be Sony. They used to be the leader in multi product lines, but they were too big to be agile in the marketplace, made the wrong turn on MP3 files and got beat in nearly every market segment they used to dominate.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM
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Buy when it's in the toilet...

I bought GE stock at $9 and $6 a share, $25K worth....now its worth $68K in less than 3 years and I'm happy.

I've bought Darden restaurants at $9 and sold 1/2 when it was $55.

I've bought General Mills for years and made plenty on stock splits and dividend reinvestment.

Let's hope the North Koreans chose the iPhone 5 Map program for their new ICBM's! Then they will hit China or Nigeria instead off Washington, DC!
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Why didn't you sell when AAPL was high (which it still is relative to your basis) especially prior to this year when the cap gains tax increased? You're talking about a huge increase in price, even from $20 to $450.
I don't plan to sell it. It's just money and it's going to my kids and their kids, if the little peckerwoods ever have any. Even if it falls to 20 dollars, an unlikely scenario if ever there was one, it's stlll money in the mattress, and it's money in the mattress that reproduced on it's own. I participated in all three of Apple's 2 for 1 splits, beginning in 87. I bought a thousand shares initially with part of an inheritance in 84 or 85. You do the math.
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I think Apple is facing the same realignment that IBM had to do 10-12 years ago. Known for their proprietary operating systems and networks, they had to "open up" to become competitive again.
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I don't plan to sell it. It's just money and it's going to my kids and their kids, if the little peckerwoods ever have any. Even if it falls to 20 dollars, an unlikely scenario if ever there was one, it's stlll money in the mattress, and it's money in the mattress that reproduced on it's own. I participated in all three of Apple's 2 for 1 splits, beginning in 87. I bought a thousand shares initially with part of an inheritance in 84 or 85. You do the math.
That's some good math. Sounds like you have done well. That's sound reasoning in my opinion especially with the amount of cap gains tax you would pay on a sale and the fact that heirs get a step up in basis.

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