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Old 02-26-2013, 03:53 PM
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Satire or not, if we kept them there for 11 years without trial and then they get released or acquitted, then full GI benefits should be the LEAST we do for them.

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Old 02-26-2013, 04:26 PM
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Phones aside, as I understand it if you randomly got a 20%ish pay cut things would become a but tight if you're a young'n. I know I'd have to cut back on some hobbies if I lost 20%
Yep, gotta cut back on everything, to pay for the Federally backed student loans that allowed me to go to college, so that I could get a stable (yes government) job, then suffer a 20% pay cut.

In the past, the lack of proactive decision making lead to temporary Gov shutdowns. Federal workers received retroactive pay once a budget was approved. This sequestration is not like that. The furlough means a 16 hours fewer operations time per pay period and a "no-ifs-ands-or-buts" 20% pay cut. Absolutely no retroactive pay measures of any kind. Plus, I will still have to accomplish a similar work tempo. So I'll just have to work harder/faster and come home even more exhausted.

Not that I will not consider going elsewhere to work, but I suspect that the defense contract re-negotiations will start this summer.... that will equate to workforce reduction for MilCons. That is likely just a matter of time.

This is the first step in major cutbacks if this trend continues.

Lesson learned: Don't trust anyone. You're never safe, no matter how hard you work, no matter what you do...

That said, If I must look for a new job, "This makes you... my competitor."
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:14 PM
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You are talking to the wrong person. My friend was the one on FB, thanking Obama for her new phone.
I just thanked Obama on FB for getting laid last night...
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:25 PM
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...and you were the one who posted that anecdote as proof that Obama is responsible.

My suggestion is that your friend is uninformed, despite being a recipient, and you are one step further removed.

It may well be that people getting these phones believe Obama is responsible, and there may be people telling them as much....


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You credit me with the wrong motive. I posted it as an illustration of what some Obama voters believe.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:27 PM
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I just thanked Obama on FB for getting laid last night...
I am not surprised.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:31 PM
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If the sequestration amounts to about 2% of the budget, why are they predicting 20% cuts? It can ONLY be because the intention is to make the cuts hurt as many people as possible, and then have a complicit media build up big human interest stories about how the Repubs have hurt the little guy.

It doesn't HAVE to be this way--If the President instructed his staff on a different tact, this could be easily handled.

It is ALL political.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:33 PM
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You credit me with the wrong motive. I posted it as an illustration of what some Obama voters believe.
I see. Sorry for the misinterpretation.
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I see. Sorry for the misinterpretation.
No problem. There are DB voters for every side in every election.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:16 PM
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Satire or not, if we kept them there for 11 years without trial and then they get released or acquitted, then full GI benefits should be the LEAST we do for them.
What about all of those German POW's that sat in prison camps for several years! No trial! No charges!
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:57 PM
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That is quite possibly the sickest and saddest thing I've ever seen. From "ask not what your country can do for you

Oh never mind we're bankrupt & screwed now.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:08 PM
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No problem. There are DB voters for every side in every election.
Say it a'int so, Joe.....
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:09 PM
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What about all of those German POW's that sat in prison camps for several years! No trial! No charges!
No Benefits!

But that was back when our great nation had a set....
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:20 PM
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What about all of those German POW's that sat in prison camps for several years! No trial! No charges!
An exchange program with mutual benefits.

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Old 02-26-2013, 08:24 PM
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Prisoner exchanges, really? I didn't know that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:42 AM
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If the sequestration amounts to about 2% of the budget, why are they predicting 20% cuts? It can ONLY be because the intention is to make the cuts hurt as many people as possible, and then have a complicit media build up big human interest stories about how the Repubs have hurt the little guy.

It doesn't HAVE to be this way--If the President instructed his staff on a different tact, this could be easily handled.

It is ALL political.
It's all part of the deal Obama signed in 2011 to take effect if Congress doesn't come to a budget agreement. It was meant to be so distasteful to both sides that there would be no way it would come to pass. Yet here we are. The 20% cut is for a fixed length of time only, not sure how many weeks or months. So even though there is a 20% weekly cut now, over the year it might really be equal to 5 or 10%.

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