Originally Posted by spdrun

Efficiency is about the same between a manual and automated manual, in some cars one is 1 mpg better, in some cars it's the other way around. As far as shift times being 0.5s faster, I really don't give an aerial yank.

I don't want a goddamn race car -- I want one that's simple, durable, easy to work on, and can be push started if the battery is low. I'd rather have the most low-end Kia or Fiat 500 than anything with a 2-pedal excuse for a gearbox aka wimpomatic.

Fortunately, at least a few cars with real 3-pedal transmission are still available in this excuse for a country.