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Air&Road · #31 04-07-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Oh, yes, I see that appears to be the official white house website. So he must have said it.

Now the question is if there is new evidence of the bushmaster having been converted to full automatic operation or not. I did some searching earlier today and found a video of a fellow demonstrating a similar gun equipped with a sliding stock device which is legal but gives all evidence of full automatic operation. So you can get into discussions similar to the definition of a "technical virgin" and the like.

Even if one thinks the president is evil incarnate it seems pretty unlikely that he would deliberately misrepresent anything so easily disproved. So I am going with the idea that it either has a fully automatic operation device added or that he simply does not know the difference technically.

Personally I don't care if the gun is semi automatic, fully automatic or is equipped with a device which creates a fully automatic equivelant. Just because people think its fun to shoot a lot of rounds really quickly does not mean they should be able to own such devices legally.

And I don't care how the problem is attacked. ...guns in the hands of properly trained, psychologically screened people? OK. More effective screening of gun buyers? Ok by me. More interaction between the medical profession and law enforcement? OK by me.

I am in favor of making our society more safe using whatever methods work.

I can CERTAINLY agree with you on solving the problem of making sure that guns don't get into the hands of the mentally lll.

Dubyagee · #32 04-07-2013, 11:24 AM

It just seems like the mentally ill are the ones making these laws.

Air&Road · #33 04-07-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

It just seems like the mentally ill are the ones making these laws.

Isn't that the truth?

t walgamuth · #34 04-07-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Oh, so you finally admit that you don't support the COTUS. Thanks for your honesty Tom.

I am not sure what you mean.

Volker · #35 04-07-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Personally I don't care if the gun is semi automatic, fully automatic or is equipped with a device which creates a fully automatic equivelant. Just because people think its fun to shoot a lot of rounds really quickly does not mean they should be able to own such devices legally.

I think that is plenty reason for people to own such devices legally. I think there is a big problem in the ease in which people are for banning this or that. If you can prove that having such things illegal would make some large difference in public safety, then there is an argument. But without any evidence, it's just nuts (and there is no evidence. See for example the school shooting in Montreal Canada in 1989 after which "gun registry" was implemented. Then same school shooting happened again 10 years later, but at least the gun was registered

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Ultimately the logic is questionable. A law does not imply 100 % compliance, and people who are willing to kill others (the problem), are already breaking existing laws much more serious than any firearms legislation.

People who want to have RPG's and bazookas in their house have no need to prove why they would want or need such things, it is their natural right.

t walgamuth · #36 04-07-2013, 12:45 PM

It is?

In what country?

The Clk Man · #37 04-07-2013, 12:54 PM

My stepfather has a gun and he said that in Florida, the your gun has to be three steps away from firing to be legal. By that time, a fully automatic gun has already blown your face off. I don't understand that law.

elchivito · #38 04-07-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

My stepfather has a gun and he said that in Florida, the your gun has to be three steps away from firing to be legal. By that time, a fully automatic gun has already blown your face off. I don't understand that law.

Neither does your stepfather.

Botnst · #39 04-07-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

I don't. They both kill, so what's the difference?

So it's like a hammer.

I agree with you completely. It's just another tool. In the hands of a moral person it is a threat to only those who would be a threat to them.

In the hands of an immoral person it is a threat to everybody.

Jorn · #40 04-07-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

So it's like a hammer.

I agree with you completely. It's just another tool. In the hands of a moral person it is a threat to only those who would be a threat to them.

In the hands of an immoral person it is a threat to everybody.

No, a hammer is designed to put a nail in the wall. You can put a nail in the wall with a pistol but very view do.

Botnst · #41 04-07-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

No, a hammer is designed to put a nail in the wall. You can put a nail in the wall with a pistol but very view do.

So it's like a knife.

P.C. · #42 04-07-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I know it is true because our infinitely intelligent leader told us so. It's not as if he would ever misstate the facts to push an agenda.

President Obama Says Fully Automatic Weapon Used At Sandy Hook Shooting

It's a shame that the most important issue on your mind relative to Sandy Hook is one of semantics, one which apparently completely overshadows that minor issue of a fair number of children and adults being shot to death.

Botnst · #43 04-07-2013, 07:42 PM

What we have here is failure to communicate.

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Jorn · #44 04-07-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

It's a shame that the most important issue on your mind relative to Sandy Hook is one of semantics, one which apparently completely overshadows that minor issue of a fair number of children and adults being shot to death.

When you get older automatic makes all the difference.

unkl300d · #45 04-08-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

It's a shame that the most important issue on your mind relative to Sandy Hook is one of semantics, one which apparently completely overshadows that minor issue of a fair number of children and adults being shot to death.

Allow me to offer an alternative issue which IS relevant to societal violence and the Sandyhook kids and other outlier public mass murders:

Campbell Brown: The President Gives Hollywood a Pass on Violence - WSJ.com