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Not all, becoming King is an ACTION. He most definitely wants to be King. No doubt about it. I don't hold any personal hate for him because of it. I think it is a disappointing goal to see in an elected official.
Now that R. Daley is gone in Chicago he should pronounce himself KING of Chicago. That way there would be no friction between R. Emanuel and himself as R. E. could remain mayor and they could divey up what they steal between them. That would be a great day for everyone who lives outside of the great state of IL.

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How do the republican outlets speak louder and longer, please explain? The last I checked there was one somewhat right leaning media enterprise and the rest are very left biased.

My opinion is that both parties are skilled in character assassination, yet the republican media machine accomplishes it with a flair that separates the pros from amateur night.
I attribute this to considerably better organization, better similarity or purpose, and better discipline within the ranks of the party.
The democratic party is a lot larger, but represents huge internal strife and argument.

I think these characteristics carry over into the media outlets biased either way. With what the right characterizes as the main stream media for the left, you have a lot of conflict, a lot of disunity, call it a group of people all with slightly different agendas. With the right, you have a far more disciplined and smooth running machine. Its smaller, but its unity is impressive.

Take "swift boat veterans for justice" as an example, the speed of that attack, and its clarity was like an electrical fire through the nation. In the same election, take the data dug up about dubyas national guard stuff and how it was used in attack, way less properly done, not delivered with consummate skill and speed, and easily defeated in detail
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My opinion is that both parties are skilled in character assassination, yet the republican media machine accomplishes it with a flair that separates the pros from amateur night.
I attribute this to considerably better organization, better similarity or purpose, and better discipline within the ranks of the party.
The democratic party is a lot larger, but represents huge internal strife and argument.

I think these characteristics carry over into the media outlets biased either way. With what the right characterizes as the main stream media for the left, you have a lot of conflict, a lot of disunity, call it a group of people all with slightly different agendas. With the right, you have a far more disciplined and smooth running machine. Its smaller, but its unity is impressive.

Take "swift boat veterans for justice" as an example, the speed of that attack, and its clarity was like an electrical fire through the nation. In the same election, take the data dug up about dubyas national guard stuff and how it was used in attack, way less properly done, not delivered with consummate skill and speed, and easily defeated in detail


And this is all being said by someone who is EXACTLY in the center!




Just curious. Did you ever hear the facts about the letter that was "drug up" by Dan Rather about G.W.'s NG service was proven to be written on a typewriter that was produced long AFTER G.W.'s National Guard service. If you did NOT hear that piece of news fact, don't feel bad about it. Your liberal media did a good job of burying it.

I can't believe that I am allowing you to put me in a position to go to bat for G.W. It's just that you need to know the facts and call it both ways.
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Not all, becoming King is an ACTION. He most definitely wants to be King. No doubt about it. I don't hold any personal hate for him because of it. I think it is a disappointing goal to see in an elected official.
right, and you have absolutely no basis for this notion. Unless you can deliver some kind of discernible evidence to other people that this preposterous theory is based in observed fact, then its more of the same.

You like the idea, so you adopted it. Because you hate him. Admit it, im not asking you to clarify a lie like you saw election fraud because everyone saw through that anyway, im asking you to be honest with yourself and us for once.
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And this is all being said by someone who is EXACTLY in the center!
do you disagree? prove me wrong
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My opinion is that both parties are skilled in character assassination, yet the republican media machine accomplishes it with a flair that separates the pros from amateur night.
I attribute this to considerably better organization, better similarity or purpose, and better discipline within the ranks of the party.
The democratic party is a lot larger, but represents huge internal strife and argument.

I think these characteristics carry over into the media outlets biased either way. With what the right characterizes as the main stream media for the left, you have a lot of conflict, a lot of disunity, call it a group of people all with slightly different agendas. With the right, you have a far more disciplined and smooth running machine. Its smaller, but its unity is impressive.

Take "swift boat veterans for justice" as an example, the speed of that attack, and its clarity was like an electrical fire through the nation. In the same election, take the data dug up about dubyas national guard stuff and how it was used in attack, way less properly done, not delivered with consummate skill and speed, and easily defeated in detail
Please describe the republican media machine, and as far as the swift boat scenario that was I think nine years ago.
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right, and you have absolutely no basis for this notion. Unless you can deliver some kind of discernible evidence to other people that this preposterous theory is based in observed fact, then its more of the same.

You like the idea, so you adopted it. Because you hate him. Admit it, im not asking you to clarify a lie like you saw election fraud because everyone saw through that anyway, im asking you to be honest with yourself and us for once.

If you continue to falsely claim that I "hate" the President, rather than hate his actions. I will take this as a PERSONAL INSULT!

I am MOST DEFINITELY being honest with myself. You know absolutely NOTHING about me personally. I know for a fact that I do not personally hate the President.

Again, one more claim of me hating the President will indicate a PERSONAL INSULT.
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Hmmm.... where in that did I disagree? I'm only commenting on your CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:59 AM
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If you continue to falsely claim that I "hate" the President, rather than hate his actions. I will take this as a PERSONAL INSULT!

I am MOST DEFINITELY being honest with myself. You know absolutely NOTHING about me personally. I know for a fact that I do not personally hate the President.

Again, one more claim of me hating the President will indicate a PERSONAL INSULT.
are you saying you don't hate the man? because your actions do not support that claim. Why don't you own what we all know for petes sake.

If someone did ALL the things that you claim Obama has done for years, and I were you, Id certainly hate the man, and id be happy to own that.
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Please describe the republican media machine, and as far as the swift boat scenario that was I think nine years ago.
yup, that was just an example of character assassination from what I consider a fairly equal contest.

On the Republican side, here are the self described conservative/republican news outlets-

now, on the other hand, here are what the conservatives call the liberal media, but you will notice that its not a self described title by any of these organizations.


CBS,

ABC,

NBC,

CNN,
MSNBC

CBS News,

Newsweek,
The New York Times.


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If you continue to falsely claim that I "hate" the President, rather than hate his actions. I will take this as a PERSONAL INSULT!

I am MOST DEFINITELY being honest with myself. You know absolutely NOTHING about me personally. I know for a fact that I do not personally hate the President.

Again, one more claim of me hating the President will indicate a PERSONAL INSULT.
You hate the President, but you know such irrational hatred is not Christian, so you couch the hatred of the man as a hatred of what you claim that he stands for. Childish, but it's your game, not mine. Keep playing though - sometimes it's entertaining!
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I think the "center" is a mythical place. I don't know anybody who's ever been there. Sort of like Wyoming......
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So here's how I read the thread: "You" are biased, "I" am not (apply names to "you" and "I" as you please).

Whatever the biases, it's Bush's fault and FoxNews caused it.
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So here's how I read the thread: "You" are biased, "I" am not (apply names to "you" and "I" as you please).

Whatever the biases, it's Bush's fault and FoxNews caused it.

at least we can all agree on something



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