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Might want to use a different analogy than the urinal thing. Taking a leak in a urinal is OK, taking a leak in a potted plant is not OK. Urinating is OK in designated areas. Those areas are usually obvious as they have toilets or urinals present. I agree with Brian on this one. The judge should be basing decisions on the action, not the effect. The defendant in this case had no control over the actions of the others and should not be held responsible. I think her actions were high handed and capricious.
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He might be at the root cause of the laughter, but it was the laughter that caused the loss of decorum. I blame the gallery for the loss of decorum...........they have an obligation to STFU in a courtroom. I do not blame the individual for a benign act. |
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Yep, THAT is the key. There are many people reacting against the judge in this case. That indicates to me the extreme lack of respect for authority and proper bahavior. There are so many people this way, due to the rapidly decaying society. We have a HUGE number of people these days that are absolutely spoiled with their very sad "if it feels good do it" no matter what any body thinks kind of attitude. Just another typical example of the rapidly advancing decadence of our society. I hate it that so many of our PeachParts brothers are in this group. Very sad.
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I think her judgement on him was harsh, but also this is a TMZ edited video from the back, and he could have been insolent and giving her looks the whole time. He definitely moved around enough during the punishment. I think it was benign, but the possibility of sarcasm of the judge is also there, and either way, he should have known better than to do anything but stand there and look at her while she talked directly to him
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She felt he needed to be punished, maybe she has problems maintaining control in her court and this punishment was also an example for her court police as well standing around grinning and feeding the amusement.
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No different than hugging the lawyer for a job well done. Judge is a hard ass. I know a federal judge quite well. She is a hottie, but also a very no bull**** judge. she might have done the same thing.
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Everyone missed it. When the judge complemented the attorney on the “work” he did, she was essentially hitting on the attorney. The judge and the attorney clearly have a relationship of some type. The next thing, the gallery was giggling. She, the judge, may have thought on one level at least they were giggling at her intention and she unloaded on the perp, thus protecting the attorney but admonishing both through the perp. In the end, by her own words, if not for the “work” of the attorney, whatever that really means, the perp wouldn’t have gotten probation.
The answer above is as good as any. Trying to figure out how the mind of a woman works is a pointless waste of time, doomed to failure. But still, her emotional outburst aside, the perp didn’t do anything to justify the change of sentence. Of course, the other detail is that people who behave violently towards their domestic partner should spend time in in jail. |
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MY GUESS about it is that she may not have actually seen the butt slap (that's sort of how it seems), and the reason the clip thereafter stops and restarts is she called a recess or told them to turn off the camera and then checked with her staff to see what caused the disruption. Once she knew about it, it wasn't the laughter that irked her, it was that his conduct reflected or suggested a casual "locker room" attitude rather than what should have been somber, serious proceedings. (That you think it wasn't disrespectful means about as much as what I think about the price of tea in China.) You note the deputy in the foreground? He's one of the first to react, and part of the reason for his reaction -- again, MY GUESS -- is that he knew it was inappropriate. You're free to disagree with me, of course. While we don't have all the facts, I'll bet that if you checked with the Judge and had her read this thread, she'd agree more closely with my analysis than with your gut reaction. |
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I read absolutely no appreciation for the defense attorney into her praise for his work. Seemed downright irked in fact. Getting a sweetheart deal like he got is all the more reason to stand perfectly still and only speak when spoken to until you are dismissed. Any perceived display of disrespect is dangerous when the judge is set against you. I'm surprised that he didn't catch more for unsolicited comments he made later in the clip. Notice that at the end, his attorney was going to pat him on the shoulder, and pulled his hand back at the last moment....
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If so, then you're probably right. I'm simply referring to a single benign act and that act is definitely not the height of stupidity. |
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Here's why: Take a look at the woman deputy on the far side of the court. Her hand is placed flat on the table at the point where the clip supposedly stops. At the supposed "restart", her hand has not moved from that position. My conclusion is that there could not have been more than a few seconds of lost information in that tape and all of your theory on a "recess" is not supported by the tape. My conclusion is that she absolutely saw the slap on the ass and responded to it after the gallery erupted in laughter. |
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