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Old 02-18-2014, 09:47 AM
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I would not know if your assumption that you were not out of work 5 years ago is correct.
I was not, but was in an industry which was directly positively impacted by ARRA.

There are two certainties in life. Death & Taxes. Competent people in those fields will never lack for work. I'm not a mortician. I've been employed every day since I turned 27...and that's a long time ago.

My industry was "positively inpacted" () by the ARRA, and PPACA* and the HIRE Act of 2010 and the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010 and the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 and last but not least the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012.

(I don't have the time to go into the Rev. Rulings, Rev. Procs, Regulations, and Federal Court cases which also impacted our tax laws.)

* Just yesterday I had my first client to get hit with both the .9% "Additional Medicare Tax" and the 3.8% "Net Investment Income Tax", courtesy of the PPACA.

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Old 02-18-2014, 10:49 AM
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The Republicans had majorities in both houses for more than 5 of Bush's 8 years. Because of 9/11, the Republicans also controlled the media for his first 5 or so years, which partially explains why the Democrats followed along like sheep.No doubt. The authorization to use force in Iraq being the most obvious example.Speak for yourself.
Don't forget ( going back a while) the force applied by dems to require lending institutions to make mortgage loans to people whom they knew could not/ would not repay--and the government picked up some of that liability. Bad business, and bad government.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:05 AM
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Don't forget ( going back a while) the force applied by dems to require lending institutions to make mortgage loans to people whom they knew could not/ would not repay--and the government picked up some of that liability. Bad business, and bad government.
As we've already agreed, there is plenty of blame to go around. Barney Frank has some particularly embarrassing quotes from that era. That only gets you so far, though, and doesn't come anywhere near proving your claim that the democrats ran the economy into the ditch. The Big Lie of the Crisis, Called Out By the Press : Columbia Journalism Review
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:12 AM
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There are two certainties in life. Death & Taxes. Competent people in those fields will never lack for work. I'm not a mortician. I've been employed every day since I turned 27...and that's a long time ago.

My industry was "positively inpacted" () by the ARRA, and PPACA* and the HIRE Act of 2010 and the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010 and the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 and last but not least the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012.

(I don't have the time to go into the Rev. Rulings, Rev. Procs, Regulations, and Federal Court cases which also impacted our tax laws.)

* Just yesterday I had my first client to get hit with both the .9% "Additional Medicare Tax" and the 3.8% "Net Investment Income Tax", courtesy of the PPACA.

The US Congress: The gift that keeps on giving - for Tax professionals.
The more complicated things get, the better for you! Talk about job security!
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:59 AM
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I bet you actually believe that. The number of people suffering from loss of jobs is staggering. the debt has doubled ( after Obama said that Busg's $7T debt was "unpatriotic". The "stimulus" money is still being dolled out to democrats, and we all, and out grandchildren will be paying for that.
Face it, the dems have run this economy into a rathole.
So you are saying that stimulus money was paid only to Democrats?

...or did you just forget to add "and Republicans"?
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So you are saying that stimulus money was paid only to Democrats?

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So you are saying that stimulus money was paid only to Democrats?

...or did you just forget to add "and Republicans"?
Can we do that
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Back to the comments he made about the Commander in Chief. As this fellow is currently serving in the US Navy Reserve and hold an Officer's rank he is held to a higher standard than your average man on the street. The military has rather strict rules about this.

And you can read them for yourself.

Article 88—Contempt toward officials

At one time the Captain of an aircraft carrier said he would never fight for Clinton. Clinton heloed out to the ship and gave the guy a chance to reconsider his views on this which he did.

If an officer in our military cannot continue to uphold the oath they took they need to resign. Benedict Arnold did this, and this Rep. might want to consider following in his footsteps by doing the right thing.

There is, of course, the chance this guy wants Obama to come after him so he can scream about being a victim for violating his oath. There are a lot of people in Oklahoma who would stand behind him not because of who he is but because he would be, as they would see it, being picked on by Obama.
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This. Four times a day, once at dawn, once at noon, once at mid-afternoon and finally just before sun down, stand with your family and face towards the halls of the Roman Senate. Give the Sieg Heil salute and repeat after me:

HAIL CAESAR!!
HAIL CAESAR!!
HAIL CAESAR!!
HAIL CAESAR!!
HAIL CAESAR!!
HAIL CAESAR!!

Ok, you get the idea. Even if Caligula is the current Emperor and the Roman Senate is filled with psychopaths, it makes no never mind, you must sing the praises of imperialism. No criticism of Caligula or the Roman Senate is ever allowed, else you may be considered a loser. Besides, Caligula is known to take off the heads of critics. If you rinse, wash and repeat the foregoing practice each and every day, your friends and neighbors will consider you a "loyalist" and a genuine good guy!

It also helps to acquire a bumper sticker for all your vehicles that says, "HAIL CAESAR!!!". Remember when other motorists honk their approval, you beep your horn back and give the Sieg Heil salute.

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Old 02-18-2014, 06:24 PM
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Back to the comments he made about the Commander in Chief. As this fellow is currently serving in the US Navy Reserve and hold an Officer's rank he is held to a higher standard than your average man on the street. The military has rather strict rules about this.

And you can read them for yourself.

Article 88—Contempt toward officials

At one time the Captain of an aircraft carrier said he would never fight for Clinton. Clinton heloed out to the ship and gave the guy a chance to reconsider his views on this which he did.

If an officer in our military cannot continue to uphold the oath they took they need to resign. Benedict Arnold did this, and this Rep. might want to consider following in his footsteps by doing the right thing.

There is, of course, the chance this guy wants Obama to come after him so he can scream about being a victim for violating his oath. There are a lot of people in Oklahoma who would stand behind him not because of who he is but because he would be, as they would see it, being picked on by Obama.
Reserve officers not on active duty are under fewer rules than active duty officers.

IMO, all officers (active, reserve, retired) should STFU and stay away from criticizing the CinC. I'd also like flag officers be prevented from serving in elected office.

To me, the greatest single internal threat to democracy is the military.
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So is the country as a whole, despite GOP efforts to tank the economy. Republicans have a lot of nerve complaining about the economy. We would be totally screwed were it not for the ARRA. These attacks from the right are going to work with the people who will always support them anyway. Beyond that, I don't see the GOP fooling very many people on this.
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