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Old 03-30-2014, 06:59 PM
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As soon as you show us a measure which is intended to make elections more legitimate, then we'll talk.

Anyone who doesn't see that these R measures are an attempt to disenfranchise poor D voters is asleep at the wheel.
Show you a measure? The measure has been all over the news for several years. The legitimacy improvement involves showing positive identification when voting. You don't have to make a lot of money to have personal identification.
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Old 03-30-2014, 09:07 PM
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Show you a measure? The measure has been all over the news for several years. The legitimacy improvement involves showing positive identification when voting. You don't have to make a lot of money to have personal identification.
So far, all I've seen is thinly veiled attempts to weaken the other side, nothing that truly attempts to aid in legitimacy.
The dems are showing very poor strategy by not taking up the mantle of voter id in a manner which would not hurt their side as badly as what has been offered up so far.
The idea of voter ID polls well, so one would think they would have someone on it..

Anyone find it interesting that the states covered by section 5 of the Voter's Rights Act have almost all passed new and highly restrictive voting laws?
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I find it very sad to watch people oppose measures that attempt to nature the legitimacy of elections.

Moral and ethical people would not oppose such measures.
How does excluding people with the right to vote promote the legitimacy of elections?
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How does excluding people with the right to vote promote the legitimacy of elections?

I've been the victim of a DNC misinformation campaign by high ranking Democrats...........my apologies.

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Old 03-30-2014, 09:56 PM
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Looks as if more are voting than registered if you check with the FEC.

How does one explain that away?
How do we explain something for which you provide no link?

We don't.
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How do we explain something for which you provide no link?

We don't.


I've been the victim of a DNC misinformation campaign by high ranking Democrats...........my apologies.
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The real problem is lack of voter participation.
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The real problem is lack of voter participation.
How about the republican measure to cut early voting in Wisconsin, where they have excellent voter turnout... maybe too good for some people's taste...
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How about the republican measure to cut early voting in Wisconsin, where they have excellent voter turnout... maybe too good for some people's taste...
I would like to know more about that. Early voting is one of the few tools we have to encourage people to vote. Taking it away in areas where it is provided is insanity IMHO.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:39 PM
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I would like to know more about that. Early voting is one of the few tools we have to encourage people to vote. Taking it away in areas where it is provided is insanity IMHO.
Scott Walker Signs Early Voting Restrictions Making It Harder For Low-Income Voters To Vote | ThinkProgress

Wisconsin's New Law Only Allows Voting While Most People Are Working - The Wire

This is Scott Walker's second swipe at restricting voting access...
GOP Steps Up Attack on Early Voting in Key Swing States | The Nation
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I would like to know more about that. Early voting is one of the few tools we have to encourage people to vote. Taking it away in areas where it is provided is insanity IMHO.
You prolly missed this: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/open-discussion/352876-work-lot-hours-you-shouldnt-allowed-vote.html
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The real problem is lack of voter participation.
That is indeed a problem. I've always looked at my right to vote being sort of like I'm being given this very valuable coupon that I can only spend for exercising my freedom to vote. The coupon is no good anywhere else, so why waste it.

At the same time I would like to see people study and learn about the issues and candidates before they vote, but everyone has the right to vote whether they know anything or not. I like to see EVERYONE vote. Even if they all vote opposite to myself. I want to see everyone who is honestly qualified to do so, cast their vote. Our country is nothing without an honest and legitimate election process.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:37 PM
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That is indeed a problem. I've always looked at my right to vote being sort of like I'm being given this very valuable coupon that I can only spend for exercising my freedom to vote. The coupon is no good anywhere else, so why waste it.

At the same time I would like to see people study and learn about the issues and candidates before they vote, but everyone has the right to vote whether they know anything or not. I like to see EVERYONE vote. Even if they all vote opposite to myself. I want to see everyone who is honestly qualified to do so, cast their vote. Our country is nothing without an honest and legitimate election process.
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The real problem is lack of voter participation.
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