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If the ability to have more armed personnel resides with the base commander, then they are the ones immediately responsible to ensure that it happens. I understand that responsibility flows upwards, so in essence, the CINC is ultimately responsible. But I think it is fair to say that unless the need was presented to him and/or the ability to rectify was denied to the commanders because of edicts from the CINC, then placing the blame on him is not entirely deserved. At least not until you wore out the backside of the post commander. As I stated earlier, I'm sure that you and many other veterans (thanks for your service) would be profoundly upset if POTUS started nosing into day to day military affairs...
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I still contend, that after the major event of the nutzoid doctor, at least as it was portrayed in the press, a REAL leader would have taken the very few seconds it takes to say something to an underling like "check into, or see to, or ensure that, or report back to me on..... the security on that post. A REAL leader will do that sort of thing. Of course with the current POTUS resume, he had zero experience in this area before entering the whitehouse and from all indications the OJT hasn't produced anything yet. He had time to make sure it was labeled as workplace violence instead of the OBVIOUS terrorism that it actually was. The generals are politicians, they know to follow whatever tone that is set by the administration. They know that the current administration has no regard for the second ammendment, so they don't want to get involved with the stigma that a few soldiers carrying on post might put forth in the press. They want another star and will do whatever for it, just like a congressman will do anything to get elected for another term. BTW, soldiers don't question their chain of command. They might gripe about amongst themselves but they don't complain up the chain. They also respect a commander at any level when he is doing something to protect them.
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Yeah, and you need to be careful in your reading as well.
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For someone who has not served a lot of this is hard to picture. For those of you who did it is all very vivid.
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If Billy Bob Smith had hollered alehu alkbar as he was shooting his victims I would be a tad suspicious that he might harbor radical Islamist notions that are a common characteristic of Islamic terrorists.
Or say, Richard Reed….. But that's just me. |
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Hood Major 'Shot in Gut' Helped Other Soldiers | Military.com
I wonder if Major Miller is eligible for a valor commendation since he was not in theater? Major Miller Is a good example of our nations finest.
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Maybe they should prohibit all weapons, don't seem to be a right solution: Marine guard shot to death by colleague at NC base
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Give 'em all sparklers and they could be '1000 Points Of Light'......
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Golly, it makes me want to burst into song!
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On my ship we had a Barney Fife approach -- in port there was a sailor on the quarterdeck with a pistol but the mag was kept on the belt.
Sailors could have private firearms aboard for E-4 and above. I had a .22 High Standard auto. Each weapon was registered with the ship and locked up in an armory with the ammo stored separately. Marines carried all kind of shyte from sidearms to mortars. They were locked-up, too. I think we locked the marines up separately, but that was understandable. Bet rules ail have to change a bit when we get personal rail guns. |
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It just goes to show that no matter how much training, discipline and security the State imposes, people will do what they will. It isn't external rules that prevent slaughter, it is internal.
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Most likely it was also easier to get a murder conviction. There was never any doubt that that maggot did the killing. Terrorism would have been a higher hurdle. Too bad the female security guard didn't shoot him dead and save the country some grief and lots of $$.
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