See my other post. I googled the issue. You can find a number of reports of people having serious hallucinations from ingesting marijuana. I was highly skeptical of the first reports of the African student. His friends reported a bizarre change in behavior. This second case reduces my skepticism.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-484906.html

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-548685.html

http://boards.cannabis.com/marijuana-methods/54038-eating-pot-browines.html

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=10105

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I guess you'll get mad if I agree with you because you seem so bent on making me mad, but from what I've seen, people indeed typically do not tend to get violent on marijuana, lazy yes, violent no.

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I'm serious when I say this. I forgot about that particular term being offensive. What term did you require me to use. I don't even remember that. I will indeed use a different term

That said, if the shoe fits, wear it.

Why is that term so offensive? It sure seems to set you on fire, but I am not using it for that purpose. There are many terms I've used over the years that turn out to be offensive to sensitive people. In the seventies I worked with an Asian man who called himself "oriental." So, I used that term for years thinking I was being respectful until someone pointed out that Asian was the preferred term. I meant no disrespect to anyone and I changed my language to accommodate the PC term.

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I don't believe you.
In fact, your mood swings are indicative of being a druggie....

I do not hold a medical marijuana card, and have no desire to get one, so those people don't care for me.
There is no doubt in my mind that there exists many unwarranted prescriptions for weed, much like anything else that requires a prescription.

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Correlation. Is. Not. Causation.

Access to MJ is pretty universal among younger generations. Let's say that 90% of people have tried it at some point in their life. Maybe people with a certain brain structure are more likely to find it pleasurable and thus keep using (and use in greater quantities).

In short, the people doing the study (or the journos reporting it) flunked Stat 101. A more rigorous study would have to scan people at a younger age, before they start using, scan again every year or so, have them report on MJ use. Then, for good measure, scan them again after a period of abstention.

That is alarming. I have read that the stuff today is WAY more powerful than what Alice B. Toklas cooked with. Maybe that has something to do with it.

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So you're calling me a liar. I was trying to apologize, but you have some sort of chip on your shoulder that is preventing your acceptance. WHAT. TERM DO YOU WANT ME TO USE AND I WILL TRY TO BEND OVER FAR ENOUGH BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE YOU.

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This is the other case: 'Wyoming student fell to death after eating marijuana cookie' | Mail Online

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I don't care for any deliberately derogatory terms. (unless they are used in jest, and in the right company, then I can find some humor...)
I hear too much of that crap from the idiots of the world and have no desire to hear it here.

Druggie directly implies drug addict.
I don't believe there are any of those here. (could be an exception or two...IDK)
Using that term in rebuttal during a debate with a person who is not an addict is childish and indicative of a lost argument.

Maybe you have never known a drug addict.
It is not pretty.
And not an appropriate retort in an otherwise civil discussion.

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I pretty much agree with this. It certainly appears that some people react different than others. That is all the more reason for someone to not take the chance on finding out that they are one of the people whose life will be ruined by drug use.

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OKAY THEN WTF TERM DO YOU WANT ME TO USE? I'm not trying to use a deliberately derogatory term. What do you want me to call people who use drugs that will have enough sugar dripping off of it so as not to offend anyone?

BTW you know NOTHING about whether or not I have mood swings. I tried to post something that I found interesting, but when people see that it's me posting it, the whole thing turns into something like this. I have been trying to stay with car threads, to stay out of crap like this. I thought I could start this thread without it sliding into the ditch, but I was wrong.

Oddly, your somewhat friendly remark in the Lotus thread made me feel better about things around here, but it wasn't the first time I've ever been wrong. Come to think of it your response there vs. Your responses in this thread could be seen as mood swings.

I really find it impossible to understand how anyone can judge someone's mood without hearing the tone of their voice or seeing the expressions on their face.

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There's no proof that it "ruins lives" from the study. For all we know, the altered brain structure existed before use commenced. The study doesn't speak to behavior either, only to morphology.

I know quite a few highly functioning, driven professionals that enjoy a joint a few times a week.

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You could refer to them simply as users.
Or drug users if you want to be able to use the word 'drug'.

My guess is that you've never known an addict.
I volunteered quite a bit of time when I was younger at soup kitchens through the church.
I have seen, fed and gotten to know quite a few people in varying degrees of drug dependence.
People who smoke a joint here and there are not druggies, they are not addicts. The term is inappropriate.

It is on par with me calling you alky, wino or drunkard because you have admitted to having used alcohol during your life.

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1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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I'd say the two recent cases of hallucinations related to ingesting marijuana which resulted in deaths are more worrying than the original linked study.

The 13 minute police response time is even more concerning. Their house is about half a mile from the precinct.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13