Originally Posted by elchivito

Some years ago a fellow started a religious retreat on property bordering mine. He used a road that borders my land for a half mile to access his. graded dirt. He had delivery trucks coming in on thursdays, driving too fast. On fridays he'd have a for-hire bus come in loaded with true believers. Again, driving WAY too fast. Although a dedicated road, the county wouldn't help. I posted signs, I asked the property owner to tell his customers to slow down, all to no avail.
Finally in frustration I followed the bus, empty on his way out, got the pertinent numbers off of it with a picture and called the sheriff. They issued a ticket to the bus company. The company called to verify it with me. I had no idea the sheriff would disclose the complainant but they did. The manager of the bus company said they had a firm employee rule, one ticket and you're fired. I asked for the driver's name and they gave it to me.
Some days later the guy called up and began verbally abusing my wife over the phone, making all sorts of threats about wouldn't it be too bad if somebody took a pot shot at those nice looking horses. She didn't know who he was so handed the phone to me. I let him rant and then calmly said look pal, you've just threatened violence against my property and home in your own name. You've lost your job, do you want to go to jail as well? Rest assured if anyone from this point forward causes any unpleasantness to me, my family or my property, I'm giving the cops YOUR name and phone number. I never heard from the douchebag again.
Press charges on the bastid.

Originally Posted by elchivito

Finally in frustration I followed the bus, empty on his way out, got the pertinent numbers off of it with a picture and called the sheriff. They issued a ticket to the bus company. The company called to verify it with me. I had no idea the sheriff would disclose the complainant but they did. The manager of the bus company said they had a firm employee rule, one ticket and you're fired. I asked for the driver's name and they gave it to me.

Some days later the guy called up and began verbally abusing my wife over the phone, making all sorts of threats about wouldn't it be too bad if somebody took a pot shot at those nice looking horses.

Originally Posted by spdrun

So you got a driver fired because his boss happened to be hired by a cult? Nice job -- didn't know you had that kind of vindictiveness in you. Driver had every right to be enraged at you.

Talk about shooting the messenger. Why the hell would you go after someone who was just hired to drive a bus?

Originally Posted by spdrun

So you got a driver fired because his boss happened to be hired by a cult? Nice job -- didn't know you had that kind of vindictiveness in you. Driver had every right to be enraged at you.

Talk about shooting the messenger. Why the hell would you go after someone who was just hired to drive a bus?

Originally Posted by spdrun

So you got a driver fired because his boss happened to be hired by a cult? Nice job -- didn't know you had that kind of vindictiveness in you. Driver had every right to be enraged at you.

Talk about shooting the messenger. Why the hell would you go after someone who was just hired to drive a bus?

Originally Posted by elchivito

He had no right to threaten me or my property. There was no vindictiveness on my part at all. It wasn't my intention to get anyone fired. I wrote a whole lot more here but decided I was pissing in the wind so took it out.
The short answer is, the guy knew his employer's rules. He knew the consequences of ignoring those rules. If enraged at anybody, he should have been enraged at himself. No speeding + no ticket = JOB. pretty simple. If I am not mistaken it's called taking responsibility for one's actions. Or something.

Originally Posted by spdrun

Fact is, you got him fired. Jobs are hard to come by these days -- you're lucky that he simply didn't come to your door and beat the snot out of you rather than venting over the phone. Sometimes it's better to live and let live than take actions that can ruin someone's livelihood.

Was the cult or the fast driving really causing you any harm? Chances are the worst case scenario would have been the bus flipping and killing a few dozen cultists. You didn't like them anyway, and it wouldn't have been your problem.

Lastly, his boss may have had a rule against fast driving and tickets. But boss-man may have also paid him by the job vs by the hour, or told him "I need this bus back at the yard by {an unrealistic time}."

Originally Posted by P.C.

Then, irritated by unreasonable and dangerous working conditions, he should have called his ex-bosse's wife and threatened her livestock...

Originally Posted by spdrun

Fact is, you got him fired. Jobs are hard to come by these days -- you're lucky that he simply didn't come to your door and beat the snot out of you rather than venting over the phone. Sometimes it's better to live and let live than take actions that can ruin someone's livelihood.

Was the cult or the fast driving really causing you any harm? Chances are the worst case scenario would have been the bus flipping and killing a few dozen cultists. You didn't like them anyway, and it wouldn't have been your problem.

Lastly, his boss may have had a rule against fast driving and tickets. But boss-man may have also paid him by the job vs by the hour, or told him "I need this bus back at the yard by {an unrealistic time}."

Originally Posted by jplinville

Again...someone not taking responsibility for their own actions that expects a free ride because times are tough. Life's tough...he shouldn't be driving like an idiot, breaking company policy. Rules aren't made to be broken...especially employment and safety rules.

Originally Posted by spdrun

Fact is, you got him fired.

Originally Posted by elchivito

Logically, no I didn't.
His action precipitated my action. Without his action; speeding, I'd not have taken any and he'd have a job, at least until he got caught speeding somewhere else. He got himself fired. Shlt happens.

Originally Posted by spdrun

You ratted him out. You have not provided any evidence that you or your family were being personally endangered by his speeding.

Originally Posted by spdrun

You ratted him out. You have not provided any evidence that you or your family were being personally endangered by his speeding. If you wanted the cult to move on, you should have figured out a way to fight the cult directly, not make the bus driver a pawn in your game.

Originally Posted by spdrun

You ratted him out. You have not provided any evidence that you or your family were being personally endangered by his speeding. If you wanted the cult to move on, you should have figured out a way to fight the cult directly, not make the bus driver a pawn in your game.