WTF?? My postal carrier is stealing from me.

[jplinville]

As many of you know, I use what the media calls e-cigs. Actually, its a personal vaporizer, but for this post, it's the same thing.

Anyway, I order e-juice, which is the liquid used in the atomizer part of the device, from a manufacturer in another state. I've been ordering from her for almost 3 months. My last order was never delivered. I called the company, and they not only remade the order, they doubled it for me and tracked it.

Yesterday, we went to our local vape lounge to pick up a bottle of juice to tide me over until the new order comes in. While I'm there, the package delivery guy for the USPS shows up, and starts talking to the owner about this juice he has, and pulls out 2 bottles from the company in Ohio...the same two bottles I had ordered. He proceeds to tell the owner that he ordered them on a whim, and that he liked them. While he's telling this story, my wife pulls out her phone and video tapes the whole thing.

After the postal carrier leaves, I call the company in Ohio and ask if they have had any other orders to my area other than mine...The lady on the phone tells me I'm the only one in PA that orders from them.

We're headed to the Post Master in our city to file the complaint. This should be interesting...and I still don't have my package yet from Ohio. I should have gotten it early last week.

I hate thieves...

[spdrun]

You could always talk to the guy, say you have video of him talking about the juice, and give him the opportunity to return the goods before you report him for a Federal offence. Feds take mail carriers stealing mail very seriously -- I've heard of a mailman getting a few years in prison (in addition to losing his job and pension) for stealing mail in Florida.

[P.C.]

Maybe it's a sign that you should just not use that crap.

[t walgamuth]

He'll lose his job....deservedly so.

[jplinville]

Originally Posted by spdrun

You could always talk to the guy, say you have video of him talking about the juice, and give him the opportunity to return the goods before you report him for a Federal offence. Feds take mail carriers stealing mail very seriously -- I've heard of a mailman getting a few years in prison (in addition to losing his job and pension) for stealing mail in Florida.

And give the thief a chance to dispose of it? No...I'll sleep quite well if he loses his job and does time. If he's stolen from me, he's stolen from others.

The owner of the company is removing her company name from the return address for all future packages she sends out. I told her to use the initials of the company, or only use the address. Anyone who vapes knows that packages from XXX XXXXXX Vapes is product for e-cigs.

I can't stand thieves...

[dynalow]

What did the shipper's tracking report show as the delivery date?
How's the package look? Plain paper, or E-juice pasted on the wrapping?

Drop a dime on him....and then get a PO box.

And put that sheet down. Just quit. Smoking is for losers. Cigs, weed, whatever. I've got the scars to prove it.
My $.02

[jplinville]

Originally Posted by P.C.

Maybe it's a sign that you should just not use that crap.

Originally Posted by dynalow

What did the shipper's tracking report show as the delivery date?
How's the package look? Plain paper, or E-juice pasted on the wrapping?

Drop a dime on him....and then get a PO box.

And put that sheet down. Just quit. Smoking is for losers. Cigs, weed, whatever. I've got the scars to prove it.
My $.02

Vaping e-cigs is not smoking. There are no combustible materials in use. There is nothing unhealthy in it. No cancer causing agents. No carcinogens. The juice I use is made from pharmaceutical grade, certified made in the USA, is mixed in a laboratory setting with all safety protocols in place. The wicks I use are 100% organic cotton, grown in the US, and I wrap my own coils with kanthal wire than I disinfect prior to wrapping. The nicotine levels I use are lowered every couple of weeks, and will continue until I'm not using nicotine at all. This has allowed me to be tobacco free for 79 days and 10 hours without a single slip-up.

My doctor approves of this as a healthier alternative to smoking, as well as a cessation device for me. It works...better than anything Big Pharm has tried pushing, with no side-effects other than no longer smelling like an ashtray, no more burnt mustache, no more burn holes in my shirt, no more smoke stained fingers, increased lung capacity (documented through the doctor), lower blood pressure (again, documented), whiter teeth (soon to be documented), fresher breath, and overall better health. I've tried Big Pharm's offerings, with the exception of Chantix, and none of them have helped for longer than a few days.

Here's a few links to read on the topic:

Nicotine Propaganda

The safety of long-term nicotine use

Heck, just do what I did and read for days and days...

E-Cigarette Forum

Now, why can someone explain why the ACA doesn't provide for real smoking cessation programs that work, and why the FDA claims to be so against smoking, yet are attacking e-cigs more?? Money...in the form of tax dollar income. They don't want you to quit smoking, because the tax dollars from it is so great. They'd rather have obedient tax payers be hooked. Even the latest round of Senate hearings on the topic show that it isn't about politics, but about money.

Please, read the links I posted on the topic, and learn about them before you attack them or those that use them.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by jplinville

And give the thief a chance to dispose of it? No...I'll sleep quite well if he loses his job and does time. If he's stolen from me, he's stolen from others.

The owner of the company is removing her company name from the return address for all future packages she sends out. I told her to use the initials of the company, or only use the address. Anyone who vapes knows that packages from XXX XXXXXX Vapes is product for e-cigs.

I can't stand thieves...

Careful, there.

This one might go postal on you !!!

[Dubyagee]

Thieves need to be pointed out.

[JB3]

Originally Posted by spdrun

You could always talk to the guy, say you have video of him talking about the juice, and give him the opportunity to return the goods before you report him for a Federal offence. Feds take mail carriers stealing mail very seriously -- I've heard of a mailman getting a few years in prison (in addition to losing his job and pension) for stealing mail in Florida.

as he should. he should be punished for this nonsense immediately. the consequences are dire ,and well known to postal employees already.

[Simpler=Better]

Originally Posted by spdrun

You could always talk to the guy, say you have video of him talking about the juice, and give him the opportunity to return the goods before you report him for a Federal offence. Feds take mail carriers stealing mail very seriously -- I've heard of a mailman getting a few years in prison (in addition to losing his job and pension) for stealing mail in Florida.

x2 talk to him first

[strelnik]

Originally Posted by spdrun

You could always talk to the guy, say you have video of him talking about the juice, and give him the opportunity to return the goods before you report him for a Federal offence. Feds take mail carriers stealing mail very seriously -- I've heard of a mailman getting a few years in prison (in addition to losing his job and pension) for stealing mail in Florida.

If this guy were stealing bread to feed his family, I would understand, show compassion and do something. I might even give him money because he'll do anything to feed his family.

Not this case.

I know a guy that I used to employ as a day laborer for 100/day, because I thought he really needed the money. He used to tell me he could only work one day in a row, because he had other jobs lined up. Good for him! I thought.

Then i found out from the local bar owner that the guy ordered and drank 9 beers, smoked a pack and half outside the bar, got escorted home by a sympatheic waitress who dropped him off ta the door, and received the rest of the 100 as a tip.

He has not been hired since.

[elchivito]

Some years ago a fellow started a religious retreat on property bordering mine. He used a road that borders my land for a half mile to access his. graded dirt. He had delivery trucks coming in on thursdays, driving too fast. On fridays he'd have a for-hire bus come in loaded with true believers. Again, driving WAY too fast. Although a dedicated road, the county wouldn't help. I posted signs, I asked the property owner to tell his customers to slow down, all to no avail.
Finally in frustration I followed the bus, empty on his way out, got the pertinent numbers off of it with a picture and called the sheriff. They issued a ticket to the bus company. The company called to verify it with me. I had no idea the sheriff would disclose the complainant but they did. The manager of the bus company said they had a firm employee rule, one ticket and you're fired. I asked for the driver's name and they gave it to me.
Some days later the guy called up and began verbally abusing my wife over the phone, making all sorts of threats about wouldn't it be too bad if somebody took a pot shot at those nice looking horses. She didn't know who he was so handed the phone to me. I let him rant and then calmly said look pal, you've just threatened violence against my property and home in your own name. You've lost your job, do you want to go to jail as well? Rest assured if anyone from this point forward causes any unpleasantness to me, my family or my property, I'm giving the cops YOUR name and phone number. I never heard from the douchebag again.
Press charges on the bastid.

[jplinville]

We handed the situation over to the Post Master. She was rather impressed with us producing a video with the guy holding it out and my wife zooming in on the bottle. I also gave her the phone number and owner's name of the company that makes it. The owner will provide her with purchase records to show that I'm the only one in PA that buys her product.

While I was there, they checked to see where the replacement order was, since it was supposed to be delivered last week. I was told that it is listed as delivered. I asked the Post Master if she would cross reference who's truck it went out on...same guy.

My brother is going over to the company this afternoon when he gets off work, and is picking yet another replacement order up for me, and he will bring it up to me this weekend when he comes for a visit.

I feel bad for the company owner, as she has gone out of her way to keep me happy. She's already given me free shipping on any order for as long as I decide to order from her. She gets my business because we've worked together on a flavor that mimics Camel Crush, which was my go to when I smoked. We've perfected the flavor, and she's getting ready to market it as one of her premium flavors in the many stores in the Dayton area that carry her brand. Getting this kind of service guarantees that I'm going to spend money with her.

I really hate thieves...they have no idea, nor care, who they financially harm.

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by elchivito

Some years ago a fellow started a religious retreat on property bordering mine. He used a road that borders my land for a half mile to access his. graded dirt. He had delivery trucks coming in on thursdays, driving too fast. On fridays he'd have a for-hire bus come in loaded with true believers. Again, driving WAY too fast. Although a dedicated road, the county wouldn't help. I posted signs, I asked the property owner to tell his customers to slow down, all to no avail.
Finally in frustration I followed the bus, empty on his way out, got the pertinent numbers off of it with a picture and called the sheriff. They issued a ticket to the bus company. The company called to verify it with me. I had no idea the sheriff would disclose the complainant but they did. The manager of the bus company said they had a firm employee rule, one ticket and you're fired. I asked for the driver's name and they gave it to me.
Some days later the guy called up and began verbally abusing my wife over the phone, making all sorts of threats about wouldn't it be too bad if somebody took a pot shot at those nice looking horses. She didn't know who he was so handed the phone to me. I let him rant and then calmly said look pal, you've just threatened violence against my property and home in your own name. You've lost your job, do you want to go to jail as well? Rest assured if anyone from this point forward causes any unpleasantness to me, my family or my property, I'm giving the cops YOUR name and phone number. I never heard from the douchebag again.
Press charges on the bastid.

The sheriff or the cops are known to give out your PII (personal identifiable information) like Santa Claus passes out candy canes. One case I'm aware of involved someone whose car was hit in a parking lot by another motorist who then drove off (hit and run). The victim knew someone on the inside with local police department who ran a license plate check for them and gave up the perpetrator's home address. The victim then began to stake out the perpetrator's home (stalking?). Of course this situation could have easily become heated between the parties involved.

The cops are not supposed to hand out PII on people but apparently, if you have the right contacts on the inside, they will give you up to anyone.