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barry12345 · #76 10-31-2019, 07:55 PM

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Around 2:00 AM in the morning, "Do-gooder" neighbor sees something amiss at your house. Wrong car in the driveway, front door standing open, loud music, whatever.
"Do-gooder" neighbor calls the cops on their non-emergency telephone number to report a "problem".
"Do-gooder" cops show up unexpectedly to "check out" your property.
"Do-gooder" cops notice something amiss, a door is open, a strange car is in the driveway, loud music is playing, etc etc.
"Do-gooder" cops decide to not identify themselves to you; they then proceed to snoop around your back yard at 2:00 AM.
You, the homeowner hear someone rustling around your back yard at 2:00 AM.
Believing that a burglar may have invaded your property, you grab your gun and look out the back window.
"Do-Gooder" cops who were called to your house by your "Do-gooder" neighbor proceed to gun you down.

We can all feel good knowing that everyone won. No losers, just winners. One thing for sure, death by gun is usually quick and painless.

There are no winners.

We focus on the fluke random occurances as we have been conditioned to do. This provides a palatable distraction from the overall realities. The media has no issues giving us a constant stream of them.

I seldom if ever see articles on improving the common good. Or efforts being made to improve it. People have alternatives in life but once again the media seldom if ever mentions them. They cannot assume they are common knowledge. .

merc lover · #77 10-31-2019, 09:23 PM

I hear various motorcycle gangs like doing business in Canada because NO ONE IS ARMED.

barry12345 · #78 11-01-2019, 02:12 AM

The collateral damage has to be acceptable. In comparison to the severity of the problem. There is no free ride with anything.

Drug use destroys people and is a major creator of crime. Destroy the head of the beast and it goes away. The drug use issue is not static. It is growing all the time. We arrest and fill the system with users. Drugs destroy the very souls of people.

We are never informed how bad the issue is in north America versus other developed countries. Why not? Do we really have the issue that bad?

barry12345 · #79 11-01-2019, 04:13 AM

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I hear various motorcycle gangs like doing business in Canada because NO ONE IS ARMED.

They outlaw type motorcycle gangs are in the drug business up here in Canada. It was drugs that resulted in handguns appearing in our society. The mentality again of those that have them is an issue. The people they are doing business with would be armed. I think the biker gangs are small potatoes compared to others in the background.

The propaganda here was the killings were drug people against drug people. As if that made it allowable. There are obviously more and more guns coming into Canada.

The Toronto police have stated do not blame us. We arrest them with guns and they are out on bail right away. I think there are about three hundred and fifty cases in Toronto now awaiting court time.

Why they will not enact laws and penalties that are too severe to ignore. If they had of or still would. It will arrest the problem fast. It is getting continuously worse all the time.

I also have heard various reasons why things are as they are. True or not is any ones guess.

One truth though is.The police intelligence services spend huge amounts of money tracking and observing the drug business. As far as I can tell they seldom really act on what they know. To me it really smells overall. The business is infiltrated with undercover police. Plus informants.

It is truly amazing to me that the general public of north America have no way to get their governments to act on things. Other than mass demonstrations get their attention.

To serve the market the amount and cost of incoming drugs. Is so high in dollars. Just who are the people funding this? Plus what is protecting them.

At an absolute minumum we should be informed if north America is a lot different than other developed countries. We have a real pill problem right now that is not going to go away easily if at all. Is it also in Europe and the Orient?

barry12345 · #80 11-01-2019, 04:51 AM

A problem is those with what to me are relatively small offences get time. About the first thing prospective employers do is a police check. A record and not hired is an expectation.

If I try to enter America since the use of computors where well entrenched. I do not have a record incidentally. Yet even a conviction 50 years ago for say DUI. They will bar my admission.

When asked if you ever smoked the weed. If you reply yes you tried it once when in school and did not like it. No admittance.

The latest one is a random selection for questioning that lasts four hours on average. After even if there is nothing you are barred entry. A lot of people that have always visited their American relatives are complaining. It really does not seem to make a lot of sense superficially. Yet there is still something behind some of these newer behaviors.

Canadians are now being denied working visas for jobs Americans cannot fill. American companies are complaining about this as well.

merc lover · #81 11-01-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

A problem is those with what to me are relatively small offences get time. About the first thing prospective employers do is a police check. A record and not hired is an expectation.

If I try to enter America since the use of computors where well entrenched. I do not have a record incidentally. Yet even a conviction 50 years ago for say DUI. They will bar my admission.

When asked if you ever smoked the weed. If you reply yes you tried it once when in school and did not like it. No admittance.

The latest one is a random selection for questioning that lasts four hours on average. After even if there is nothing you are barred entry. A lot of people that have always visited their American relatives are complaining. It really does not seem to make a lot of sense superficially. Yet there is still something behind some of these newer behaviors.

Canadians are now being denied working visas for jobs Americans cannot fill. American companies are complaining about this as well.

This. Government creates at a minimum ten problems for every one problem it "solves".

barry12345 · #82 11-01-2019, 05:13 PM

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This. Government creates at a minimum ten problems for every one problem it "solves".

We can almost agree on that.

What I have grown over time to dislike. If something is changed that does not work out well. Rather than retrench to what was working. They proceed to then make it far more complex in nature usually. After a lot of further corrections. The original start point is obliterated. The magnitude of problems then are usually substantial.

It can get really stupid at times. Way over the top is not unusual. Only those that are too young to remember how it once was only can really accept it fully.

Diesel911 · #83 11-01-2019, 10:37 PM

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It is illegal to own a handgun in Canada. Yet they are getting into a lot of hands. The rate of killings has really accelerated as a result. We are also getting premature police shootings. Simply because people might be armed.

There is a mentality problem. Many see having a gun as an extension of personal power. They would not use a knife on you because of the risk of them being hurt.

There is only one way to stop the growth of killings in Canada. If you use a gun on anyone. A mandatory death sentence is imposed. You have to get serious as the powers that be cannot seem to find any other way. I would not like to see the death penalty back. People claim it would make no difference. We need a trial period to see if it would. Far too many with certain mindsets see prison as a good thing.

The law in Canada is as a person. Even if someone breaks in to our home. We can only use guns to thwart a similar situation. You break into our home without a weapon. I shoot you I go to prison.

We are not allowed to protect possessions. Yesterday a crew of three got out of a vehicle in Toronto. Went into an apartment building and gunned down five people. The day before that there was yet another shooting not too many miles away. Plus not related. Canadian society wants this stopped.

It was a joke in Canada that for a few dollars you could make a problem go away. There may be some truth to this currently.

With the existing laws and situations that is impossible. So police departments are taking the heat. If capital punishment is not possible. Sentences where hard labor is involved. You do so much work or you do not eat. If you refuse to work you starve. People want choices so enable them.

Cruel and unusual punishment? I see it as equivelent to what they do. I do not care what state your mind is in. A punishment like that is going to make you think about using a gun. Or having one outside your home.

There is no court relief in some countries. You deal drugs and you get caught. They execute you. Then and there. Especially if you import them. The leaders of those countries make it very clear. It is required to keep their societies functional. Their cultures are different. When they try to back off the drug business comes back. The American government was very upset with what they were doing. The American government did not like them getting rid of their drug problem? I had to wonder why. The country using the practice the most. Is slated for massive economic growth in the next thirty years.

I want to feel that everyone has a reasonable amount of safety in their lives. I even like the gang mentality. If their object is to do good. There is no shortage of things groups of guys could do to help their community. Helping themselves in the process. Otherwise their own potential future is grim.

This is because of their poor self-esteem. When people have successfully faced adversity and worked for what the have they have a greater chance of developing positive self esteem. They created their own empowerment.
Concerning doing good to others that can also raise your self-esteem.

It is status verses actual character. US society pushes status as more important then character (when I was a kid it was more about character).

If you have certain clothing, Car, jewelry, certain occupations and so on you are told people will look up to you. How you got them is irrelevant.

In the development of character how you got the things you have and how you act in your occupation are all reflections of your personal character that you worked on and developed.

Watch an old TV show like Leave it to Beaver, Fathers Knows best and so on and the main subject in those shows is getting the kids to develop a good character.