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rickg · #31 11-24-2003, 05:23 PM

Uh oh. Controversial Thread, Part III.

Lessee how long it takes to shut this thread down

4NDELIT · #32 11-24-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by mikemover
As long as you and I have been posting on this site, by now you should know that I DO NOT resort to mindless slander in these debates.

mike, I know that you are very intelligent and that any personal remarks would be your last resort, but that's why I posted the comment. I figured that the whole thread had degenerated so far that logic and reason had gone out the window and people were just being bitter. Obviously based on your response and Kerry's, I was very wrong, but there still seems to be a misunderstanding between your interpretation of his point and his intentions with his post. I guess I spoke way too soon... sorry mike and kerry!

4NDELIT · #33 11-24-2003, 06:50 PM

oh, and just to throw in my $0.02, I can't totally agree with the pedofilia argument, 'cause I'm 19 and I'm thinking of dating this girl I knew in high school, but she's 17 (turns 18 in april) so even though we're 2 years apart, she's considered a minor and I'm an adult (and her parents are crazy enough to try to get me in trouble). Would I be considered a pedofile because she's not quite 18? Can she not make wise, informed decisions untill april? Am I just as bad as some guy from N.A.M.B.L.A. or Michael Jackson?

Botnst · #34 11-24-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by 4NDELIT
oh, and just to throw in my $0.02, I can't totally agree with the pedofilia argument, 'cause I'm 19 and I'm thinking of dating this girl I knew in high school, but she's 17 (turns 18 in april) so even though we're 2 years apart, she's considered a minor and I'm an adult (and her parents are crazy enough to try to get me in trouble). Would I be considered a pedofile because she's not quite 18? Can she not make wise, informed decisions untill april? Am I just as bad as some guy from N.A.M.B.L.A. or Michael Jackson?

That's a good point, 4.

As a parent, I am concerned abouot an age differential. But the diff between you and the young lady is not signif to this dad. As the dad, I'd feel bound to warn you that you're now legally as well as morally responsible for the girl. But to me, more important would be the content of your character.

What age would you consider too young for an 18 year-old to date? How would the age difference apply between various permutations of sex?

Botnst

kerry · #35 11-24-2003, 07:13 PM

Robert:
No. Most issues are matters of degree. My brother-in-laws mother married in Maine when she was 13. (She is about 75 now) That would be child abuse nowadays.

4NDELIT · #36 11-24-2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Botnst
What age would you consider too young for an 18 year-old to date? How would the age difference apply between various permutations of sex?

Personally, I would say an 18 year old guy should be able to date a 16 year old girl, but maybe if I end up having a daughter (we're talking years down the line... 10 or 15 at least) my opinion might change. It also depends on the person, wether they are responsible or not. I think judgement of character should be a basis for dating, because older does not always mean more responsible.

Botnst · #37 11-24-2003, 07:35 PM

Alright 4, you passed the dad's secret date test. You can date my daughter.

If people got wiser as they got older, all us old farts on this forum would be bleeding Delphic Oracles.

Botnst

mikemover · #38 11-24-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by 4NDELIT
Personally, I would say an 18 year old guy should be able to date a 16 year old girl, but maybe if I end up having a daughter (we're talking years down the line... 10 or 15 at least) my opinion might change. It also depends on the person, wether they are responsible or not. I think judgement of character should be a basis for dating, because older does not always mean more responsible.

Makes sense to me, I think the same way, and when I was 18 I was dating a 17 year old, and no one thought anything of it. That was many years ago though, and people are MUCH more lawsuit-happy and statutory-rape happy, so BE CAREFUL. You might want to wait until April, just to be safe, legally! It's not that long...

Mike

Zeitgeist · #39 11-24-2003, 08:15 PM

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Careful Botnst, he sounds like a real smoothie with that expensive foreign sports car and all. Best greet him at the front door with a shotgun.

True, a shotgun is quite effective, but it's such an inelegant instrument. I suggest that you invite him into your parlor for a little man-to-man chat. You could regale him with your fond memories of the joys of abstinence before marriage, and the benefits of all those invigoratingly 'brisk' showers.

Then I'd take him into your den for a brief tour of your weapons cache.

Ah, the power of persuasion...

kerry · #40 11-24-2003, 08:33 PM

Perhaps I am subconsciously in favor of pedophilia. I have very good memories of dating a 21yr old the summer I got my driver's license at 16. Definitely consented to it.

Botnst · #41 11-24-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by kerry edwards
Perhaps I am subconsciously in favor of pedophilia. I have very good memories of dating a 21yr old the summer I got my driver's license at 16. Definitely consented to it.

There's a big difference in the way society views the age relationship. I recall that depraved teacher in Seattle having sex with some middle school kid and getting arrested for child abuse. I'll bet the boy's peers were consumed with envy.

#42 11-25-2003, 01:33 AM

I am never starting a thread. I am so afraid to start a thread on this site I am getting chills running down my spine and those chills are getting chills running down their spines! ..and so on...

rickg · #43 11-25-2003, 09:43 AM

Another forum member and I have been e-mailing back and forth for awhile now. This other person tried it here for awhile, but feels it's just a bit too crazy here, and has moved on. In light of the past couple weeks, I don't blame this person. You gotta like eating crushed glass to hang out here

Pass the glass, please!:p

kerry · #44 11-25-2003, 10:02 AM

Rick:
What did your friend find troubling about the forum?

rickg · #45 11-25-2003, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by kerry edwards
Rick:
What did your friend find troubling about the forum?

Not real specific, but mostly a combination of the subject matter, and the confrontational atmoshere of some of the threads. They said they'd follow some of the threads, but overall stayed out of everything after trying to join in a few times. No hard feelings as such, just didn't find this forum suited their personal preferences. This person came down from MBCanada, and the open discussion areas that were up there tended to stay alot calmer, and generally avoided real controversy, except a couple anti-Catholic threads that were started, but that's another story.(This person is not Catholic, but found the views unneccesary) We all used to say it had a more "at home" feel to it. A place to come, put your feet up, and chew the fat with each other. Much more relaxed. I really enjoyed it there. Here, we tend to pick stuff apart to the 'nth degree. Not a bad thing always, and even needed sometimes. But not everyone enjoys that kind of thing.
But alas, MBCanada seems to be no more