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Old 11-27-2003, 06:25 PM
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No,... Bimmers aren't bad really. And the styling, up until the new Bangleization started, was very good looking.

One thing I don't like about the Bimmer is the lack of space. There's no room in it to put all of your stuff. No real center console, just a drop-down glove box, usually.

The cars perform wonderfully, and truly have soul. But they feel cheaper than a Benz, and the ride isn't in the same league.

They're good sports cars, but I wouldn't want to live with an M3 everyday of my life with those rock hard, paper thin seats.

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Old 11-27-2003, 06:42 PM
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.... Maybe I"m too young to appreciate the old school benz's (aside from the 450SL), but I like the look of some of the new cars like the G35, Z4 and M3 just to name a few...
I think it's a generation thing. I'll bet to younger folks all 50s cars look the same. I used to be able to tell one car from another from a hudred feet without my glasses. Now I have to get really close to be sure I'm looking at a W211 and not a Huyndai Sonata. And at that my prescription's gone down.

This is becoming the next oil thread. Unfortunately, the folks who vote with their wallets have spoken and the rest of us lost. Besides, I wouldn't buy a brand new W126 for what it cost new in 1981. I'd wait 10 years and then buy one I wonder if I'll be alive in 2015 when the S400CDI is 10 years old.

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Old 11-27-2003, 07:02 PM
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"Now I have to get really close to be sure I'm looking at a W211 and not a Huyndai Sonata. "

That's what my Dad says. He calls cars now "Jellybean cars". They all look the same just different colors.
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:54 PM
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I think I remember reading in MB Enthusiast about the W126 dies being sold to a company in S. or N. Korea and is building them now.

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Old 11-27-2003, 10:05 PM
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I think I remember reading in MB Enthusiast about the W126 dies being sold to a company in S. or N. Korea and is building them now.

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I remember that too. I think only to be sold in Korea? Or something like that.
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:17 PM
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Newer MB's That Do Look Pretty Good

The W210 is a great looking car, and the front-end four lamp face is formidable. In my opinion, it is a bit more intimidating than a narrow-nosed W124. Especially with xenons and lower fogs on. (that'll be my next avatar!)

I get a lot of looks with my R107. Of course the new R230 is practically just as stunning from the exterior. Gorgeous, absolutely GORGEOUS car! Its too bad they don't make a diesel version.

Can you argue that the W220 is an ugly car? OK maybe the taillights are a little bland until 2003, but the overall shape and stance is perfectly "S-Class". The interior is not typical MB quality as we already know.
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Old 11-28-2003, 05:23 PM
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I like the way some of the new MB look. Maybe because I'm younger. I work at a boat yard, where you can't throw a rock without hitting one. I have come to realy like the W211 E class. There are two new E55's that are parked outside the store every weekend, they look incredible! The new SL's R230s are one of the most stunning looking new cars made, in my opionion. The W220 is a very sharp looking car, most importantly it's looks are ageing well. The new CLS though is as ugly as can be. The only thing that I don't like is that silver seems to be the only color MB offers anymore. I swear every new MB I see seems to be silver.
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Old 11-28-2003, 07:11 PM
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I too, was a fan of the W211. Until I got a glimpse at the rear end (too Camry'ish by being overly curved). The front is a big improvement over the W210 as it is more daring and sporty. The backseat seems to have a little bit less legroom than the W210.

I am 20 years of age and like nearly every Mercedes model ever made(some more than others). Despite the age, they are all truly timeless. I can't think of another manufacturer that can really compare with the all-around qualities of Benz.

The CLS REALLY breaks from tradition. It is ugly as sin, all right.
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Old 11-28-2003, 07:20 PM
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The CLS REALLY breaks from tradition. It is ugly as sin, all right.
As sins go, the CLS is borderline venial compared to the C-coupe which is beyond mortal... possibly original

Seems like MB European-ized and brought into the current century the M45.

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Old 11-28-2003, 08:06 PM
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I'll stick with my '89 V126 over anything new!

Newer MBs just don't have that formal, regal, elegant, stately style that they did on any S-CLASS past 1990. BMWs always lacked a distinctive look (except for those two nostrils on the grill). From the back, they look like almost any Jap car. MBs always looked elegant from all angles. 1991 MB opted for a much sportier look for their sedans to compete against the Lexus and Infinity market. I think its a shame that they gave up the more formal look. I will keep mine forever. No competition!
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Re: I'll stick with my '89 V126 over anything new!

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BMWs always lacked a distinctive look (except for those two nostrils on the grill). From the back, they look like almost any Jap car.
what are you smoking? try kidney grill with four seperate lights ALWAYS. Mercedes switched from round headlights, to square headlights, to round-ish blob headlights, and everything inbetween. BMW has always had the traditional kidney grill, and four round headlights (sometimes behind a lens cover). Look at the old 2002, the E21 320i, the E30 325is, the E36 328i, the E46 330i. They all have 4 headlights, and kidney grills. ALL. Now, look at the 5-series. And the 6. And the 7. notice a trend? The only exceptions are the M1, Z1, 8-series and their motorcycles (for obvious reasons I would hope even you could notice). Now, tell me what mercedes design they have kept with all of their cars? Headlights? not a chance. Taillights? change them all the time. Grille? Not at all... they changed from emblem in the grill, square grill, rounded grill, etc. I was waiting for you to say something blatently wrong and negative about bmw's.

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Until Bangleization started, BMW was always recognizable. I could always tell a Bimmer, side, front, and rear. Unmistakeable to me. It seemed one manufacturer was holding true to tradition, and guess what? BMW sales figures were way up! People loved them. Even though the Bimmers hadn't changed the bodies that much since the late '80's.

Still, as nice as a pre-Bangle Bimmer looked, the interior space was way too small.
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DslBnz, I think you are right on all thee points ,I stuided Design at Columbus College Of Art and Design in Col.OH and later swicthed to Fine Arts but if my memory holds the design instructors always stressed "form follows function" .

It looks to me that somewhere along the line that major companies that were once leaders in that concept have fallen to the powers of look at me ain't I cool to sell their cars.I really don't want a car that massages my back while it talks to me even if it is a sexy voice............

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Old 11-29-2003, 05:10 PM
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I think it's a generation thing. I'll bet to younger folks all 50s cars look the same. I used to be able to tell one car from another from a hudred feet without my glasses. Now I have to get really close to be sure I'm looking at a W211 and not a Huyndai Sonata. And at that my prescription's gone down.
I second that! While I love the new cars, I always remember asking my dad a few years before he passed away if he wanted to go the new car show in Seattle. He and I used to go all the time when I was young. He turned me down, saying there just wasn't anything new to look at anymore. They all look the same. But ask him about going to a car show in the 50's and 60's, and he'd just light up! "Now that was exciting!" he'd say. All that chrome, and new features, like air conditioning!
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:30 PM
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I only "smoke" after sex. Thanks for asking!

I hope your little Beemer logo button doesn't fall off your trunk lid, because people would yell,"nice Camry"more than they already do now! Better carry a spare button and super glue just in case! My new phrase for Bimmers is>"Jap from the back". Uh oh, time to smoke!
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