Of course it is, but who has the time to take a test that might actually provide valid results? :cool:

Absolument, cher.

...uh, by any definition, Stalin was a conservative.

Yep, ol' Mister Status quo did whatever it took to maintain his power. Perfect conservative.

B

You're confusing American common usage of the term with poli-sci terminology.

The definition of 'conservative" is that which wishes to hold the power (moral, ethical, legal, financial, political, etc). "Liberal" is that group which is out of power and wishes to loosen the conservative hold to accommodate the out-of-power agenda.

As soon as Clinton was elected, by definition he became the majority, the status quo. He spent the next 8 years maintaiing his status quo power.

In contrast, Dubyah's unseating of the status quo was a liberalizing movement forcing the existing power structure to admit his insurgency.

And so it goes. Stalin was the ultimate conservative. Kill your opponents to maintain your power structure, absolutely.

B

I think you're confusing the agendas with the definitions.

The agendas may be characterized as "left/right" and the agendas may be consistent. But the lib/conserv refers to power, not agenda.

Some totalitarians are leftists some are rightists. Either way, if they're in power, they are the conservatives.

B

The Soviets and Fascists weren't all that different in the manner in which they governed. Both centralized control over industrial production, State infrastructure and individal liberties. They may have each sprang from a respective right or left political agenda, but they ultimately came around to converge at the same point of centralized authoritarian domination of culture and social order.

I see some members have read their Hegel...

I scored:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Liberal (28).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (51).

I agree the test is written screwy, but its only 20 questions.

Virginiadude your agruing about poli sci 101 stuff. Although it was 15 years ago I think that was the first day.

I know MSU wasn't the only U.S. school teaching this.

Good explanation Z. Lots of "evil" Euro powers used Totalitarianism to implement their policies, wether that was Socialism or what have you. For the uneducated: Nazi's are socialists. Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party.


I scored:
On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (45).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Conservative (85).

On the map, I was out here:
Didnt think a libertarian would be so right wing. Personally, I think I could live with everyone having too much freedom easier than I could under oppression. We aint far from it now, no matter whom you vote for. All the peices are in place to aid tyrrany....

Aw Mo', don't be so hard on yersef.

By their definition, fiscal conservative seems to mean that you don't want somebody else to spend our money to the class benefit of a third party. That is perfectly in accord with libertarian extremist-wacko, pie-in-the-sky, impossible goal of fiscal accountability.

B

Is there some terminology I dont get here? I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying.


BTW, you forgot the part about "getting all of the unnecessary goobermint hands outta my pockets." ;) The goobermint could do with alot less hands in my pockets. I cant write hot checks and pull money from the sky, and neither should the government. If I need more money, I cant say "boss, you WILL give me more money or I will have you arrested" or go to Kinko's and print up some more*. A finite supply of money only goes so far, and therefore doesnt need to be going to un-necessary (& unconstitutional) expenditures.

Its a good thing individual citizens dont run their checkbooks like the .gov does. It would be really cool to just write checks for whatever I wanted no matter the cost. I could have my own carrier fleet with a battleship squadron as support with half of Texas's oil in the first half hour. Ooooh, I want to be a government now. Come on, just for a day? An hour? Pllleeeeeaaasssseeeee?:p


*Yes, I know its more complicated than that. Its a fair example though.

You didn't miss anything, I just gave a very confused description of the nanny-gov confiscating your money for some warm and fuzzy scheme. There are probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of goofy schemes that Congress, the President, and NGO's have for your money. All it takes is skilled negotiators and they'll have their way with you like a Visigoth entering Rome.

B

...it's too bad I missed out on Conspiracy Theory 101 back in college. I feel a bit behind the curve.

The Liberals who appreciate record-deficit big spenders should feel confortable voting for Bush...

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (44).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Moderate Conservative (65).