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1990 300E driving me up the wall
I just bought a 300E 124 1990 model with 103000kms on the clock, its a very nice car only thing is that on idle it vibrates the whole car (meduim vibration).
I tried everything that i read on the forums: -adjusting the EHA screw (it seemed ok when i first put everything together but after that 2 minutes later it went back to the usual vibration) - Adjusting the Mixture tried doing that in conjuction with the EHA adjustment but still no go ( did unitl i got around the 4V between pin 2 and 3). - check all the vacuum lines everything seems ok. - I tried taking off the ICV and cleaned it with carb cleaner it looked clean but ithought what the hell (might as well). THe engine mounts seems ok. |
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I would give those engine mounts a second look. I would also check to make sure the mounting bolts for them are tight. I have a W124 400E and the bottom bolt of one of the mounts came loose and vibrated a lot at idle especially when turning the steering wheel. Tightening the bolt smoothened it, but replacing both mounts made the engine idle imperceptible.
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With KE injection you also need to be sure of good injectors. Many argue that new injectors (not that expensive) are well worth the expenditure and effort. Fortunately I have not had rough idle problems to deal with, but these issues stick in my mind from many posts I have read. If and when I have any such problems they will be areas I will investigate.
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the reason why i think its not the mounts cause upon acceleration or reviing the engine the vibration goes away.
The rough idle feels like there is a bit of a miss or something but i cant find the culprit |
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also after i cleaned the ICV, I started the engine without the icv being connected, while the engine was running i connected the ICV and the engine stalled.
after all is connected sometimes the idle will hunt, whilst being rough. |
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One more thing, when i first got the car the car was stalling so the mechanic replaced one of the 2 fuel pumps, I'm thinking maybe the other pump is on the way or faulty
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Good luck, Bruno
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Check your engine mounts for adequate clearance: the distance between the vehicles frame and the aluminum exterior of the mount ideally is 10mm or greater. Any lower than 10mm you will feel the engine running.
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Do this: Put the car in neutral or park and note if the "rough" idle or chassis vibration is there. I'm guessing it's not. Now, put the car in D with your foot on the brake. Is the vibration very evident now? I'm guessing it is. If so, change the mount on the passenger side. It has collapsed due to the direction of torque and because it is near the hot exhaust manifold. Just get one off Fastlane or eBay and swap it out. You'll be shocked.
As for the hunting idle, just clean the throttle position sensor. I think Duke gave me the suggestion about a year ago when I experienced the same thing. Spray some carb cleaner on it, then some WD40 and it will go away like magic. These problems are common on the 300E. A few bucks for a motor mount or two (depending which side of the debate you're on) along with a few shots of carb cleaner and WD40 can practically give you a new car.
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Oh, one more thing. Use the search feature on this forum. There are countless posts regarding these issues.
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rou8gh
have you checked for a miss in the engine? after plugs and wires check compression if you find a miss. suspect the injector last.
tom w
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I'll try the the TPS cleaning when i get home and update you. |
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Is there anyway i can check the injectors? |
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Had same problem. Vibration in idle. No vibration when accelerating. Changed 1 mount first and vibration went away. Then changed 2nd mount when I removed intake manifold. Even less vibration.
Change motor mounts
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