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Old 01-09-2006, 10:48 PM
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Tech questions on Trany oil change

I did a search and did not find what I needed, I also checked my shop manual and it does not have a transmission section.

I am going to a MB tech session to change my trany oil. I have a 1987 16v with a 4 speed auto.

1. I need to know what size socket/allen I need for the torque converter.
2. How do you turn the torque converter to get the plug lined up with the hole in the bell housing?
3. What holds the filter to te trany (screwes, bolts, nuts) and doI need something special to remove them?
4. Any thing else I need to know?

Thanks
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:24 AM
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I did a search and did not find what I needed, I also checked my shop manual and it does not have a transmission section.

I am going to a MB tech session to change my trany oil. I have a 1987 16v with a 4 speed auto.

1. I need to know what size socket/allen I need for the torque converter.
2. How do you turn the torque converter to get the plug lined up with the hole in the bell housing?
3. What holds the filter to te trany (screwes, bolts, nuts) and doI need something special to remove them?
4. Any thing else I need to know?

Thanks
I had to do some of this today. I am enjoying the pleasure of dropping my trans out, so first one drains it.

1. Mine uses a 5mm allen. I suspect yours will too.
2. Turn the motor at the crank pulley clockwise only (to be safe) with a socket that fits the pulley bolt. I say clockwise only as it is verboten to turn a Benz V8 (probably applies to sixes and fours too) counterclockwise.
It helps to have someone watching the converter for the drain to come around while you do this although I managed without.
3. Haven't gotten that far yet.
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:27 AM
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I had to do some of this today. I am enjoying the pleasure of dropping my trans out, so first one drains it.

1. Mine uses a 5mm allen. I suspect yours will too.
2. Turn the motor at the crank pulley clockwise only (to be safe) with a socket that fits the pulley bolt. I say clockwise only as it is verboten to turn a Benz V8 (probably applies to sixes and fours too) counterclockwise.
It helps to have someone watching the converter for the drain to come around while you do this although I managed without.
3. Haven't gotten that far yet.

Will I need to pul the spark plugs to get it to turn?
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Old 01-10-2006, 06:37 AM
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Will I need to pul the spark plugs to get it to turn?
No
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Old 01-10-2006, 08:37 AM
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When do mine, 300E's but probably similar, I simply crawl under there with the following items : the allen wrenches (I can never remember the size), a really large, screw driver, a light source and of course a pan to catch the fluid.

Taking care to rotate the engine in the proper direction, I simply use the screwdriver to lever against the cast housing that surrounds the torque converter and move the drain plug into view. Simple. Have done it that way for years. A 4 cylinder should be easier than a 6 .

Here is a more important tip, assuming you are doing this from jack stands.
Get some 4 x 4's or something to get the drip pan closer to tranny pan and torque converter drain. It will eliminate a whole lot of splashing.

The transmission filter on the 300E's is simply 3 or 4 phillips head screws.

Hope it helps,

Steve
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:40 AM
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I do mine the same exact way as Steve, the previous poster....

Make sure you get a pan that is about 50% larger than the tranny pan... don't ask me how I know this.
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