Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-22-2007, 03:29 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Tucker, Ga USA
Posts: 12,153
The M104.980/981 were twins that had VERY few problems. M104.981 was in the 300SL.

The headgasket problem compared to the 104.992/994/995/996 was NON-existent.

I liked those engines as the fuel system was virtually the same as ALL previous 6 cylinders.

CIS-E can be a pain to those NOT familiar with the concept & diagnosis.

Wasn't LH-SFI, only the 1992-93 M104.990 used that fuel system(300SE/S320)
__________________
MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES)
ASE Master Technician
Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times)
44 years foreign automotive repair
27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer)
MB technical information Specialist (15 years)
190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold)
1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold)
Retired Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-22-2007, 04:17 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern California, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.B.DOC View Post
Wasn't LH-SFI, only the 1992-93 M104.990 used that fuel system(300SE/S320)
That's what I thought.
__________________
Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-22-2007, 04:36 PM
ILUVMILS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,084
Thanks guys, I forgot about the CIS-E version.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-22-2007, 07:35 PM
2phast's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 613
300ce M104 put out 217 hp, 300sl/300se M104 put out 228 hp.
__________________
1993 500E
http://2phast.com/500e/500e-sig.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern California, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2phast View Post
300ce M104 put out 217 hp, 300sl/300se M104 put out 228 hp.
104.981/ 980/ 990 CIS-E engines, if I understand correctly, are basically a mechanical injection system with electriconic control, using a distributor with one coil wire and 6 spark plug wires, whereas the M104.992 engine is an HFM-SFI system (hot film mass air flow sensor with sequential fuel injection), combining fuel injection and ignition control in one module.

These 3.0 liter M104 engines might be advantageous because they are simpler. They don't have an expensive throttle actuator which are prone to failure, as well as not having the infamous deteriorating wiring harness problem.

The later 3.2 liter M104 engines have variable valve timing on the intake cam, which gives them much more torque, making the torque curve broader and flatter, developing more hp at a lower rpm, making the power more usable and noticable.
__________________
Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page