Filters: K&N vs. Green, what's the difference ? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Pancho · #1 03-30-2007, 09:42 AM

Re: 2000, 430CLK

Filters: K&N (#33-2183) vs. Green (#2240), what's the difference ?

I've used K&N in my bikes, cars, trucks, etc. with good results.
They are priced about the same.

Read a posting somewhere that the K&N causes problems with the MAP because of oil, so the Green is preferred.

I don't get it. Both of these are rechargeble with oil.

What's the difference ?

Matt L · #2 03-30-2007, 10:36 AM

When you search for opinions of K&N filters, substitute "Green." They're essentially the same thing.

It's your car and your money, but I wouldn't run a K&N on this sort of application. I also would shy away from buying a car which has run one in the past.

Pancho · #3 03-30-2007, 12:21 PM

Why ???

Matt L · #4 03-30-2007, 01:25 PM

Why to which?

I have also run K&N filters on cars, but only after other extensive changes in the engine. Porting, polishing, carburetor changes, camshaft, headers and complete exhaust. Otherwise it's a waste of money. I've never run one on an otherwise stock engine, because there is no gain. It's simply a waste of money.

Why would I shy away from a street car running a K&N? It says something about a driver, if he thinks a few extra (phantom) horsepower is needed in his car. It also makes me wonder what other useless devices he's tried.

Hatterasguy · #5 03-30-2007, 03:24 PM

Mercedes doesn't use restrictive air box's. If you did a dyno run I doubt you would see any improvement with the aftermarket filter. AMG doesn't even run K&N's, stick to the paper.

Chas H · #6 03-30-2007, 03:41 PM

K&N air filters have been thoroughly investigated and found wanting. And there is a danger of excess oil from the filter damaging the MAF sensor.
A complete test is here, there are others that come to the same conclusion.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Peter Guenther · #7 03-30-2007, 03:49 PM

Maketing , marketing, the last oiled filter I had was in my 53 Studebaker

JimF · #8 03-31-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pancho

Re: 2000, 430CLK

Filters: K&N (#33-2183) vs. Green (#2240), what's the difference ?

I've used K&N in my bikes, cars, trucks, etc. with good results.
They are priced about the same.

Read a posting somewhere that the K&N causes problems with the MAP because of oil, so the Green is preferred.

I don't get it. Both of these are rechargeble with oil.

What's the difference ?

The green filter is supposed to be more like a 'cotton-weave' construction whereas the red is more like open cotton.

Never used a green filter but have experience with red filters. It can cause contamination of the MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor. For details, read MENU#4a on my web pages.

The test report referenced in the "Comments" section, shows real world tests on a series of cotton, paper and foam which will help you decide what filter to use.