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Old 09-05-2009, 04:00 PM
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what if my master cylinder was never bench bled?
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Old 09-05-2009, 04:07 PM
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what if my master cylinder was never bench bled?
The air should work its way out. You could do it on the car if you have a helper. Pump the pedal and crack the lines (1 at a time) at the master. Be sure to use a rag around the fitting to contain the fluid so it doesn't spray.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:17 PM
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alright, I bled the master, and all 4 calipers. starting with the master then the rears and etc...

Some air bubbles came out, maybe 3-5 per caliper, then i let it run for a but to see if any other bubbles came and nothing happened.


I didnt feel any substantial change in the pedal. There is still a bit of pedal travel before actual braking occurs...
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:37 PM
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Bleeding Brakes

CLEAN the top of the MC reservoir area, completely.
1. Get "New,Fresh,cheap,plastic turkey baster[tube with a bulb on the end]"
2. Remove master cylinder reservoir cap.
3.Remove the Filter Screen insert.
4.Evacuate all the Old Nasty BF you can with the "Turkey Baster"
(you will not be able to remove fluid from the rear portion of the reservoir)
5.Refill the MC reservoir with fresh clean (UNOPENED container) BF.
6.Attach the Pressure Bleeder cap to the MC reservoir and pressurize to 15PSI.
7.Using bleeder nipples with the appropriate "Catch Container",BLEED the brakes.

There are instructions in the search function on how to make a Pressure Brake Bleeder with a $9.95 garden sprayer from your favorite Big Box Store.

All this "Pumping" or "Directing an Assistant" or using a Mighty Vac to bleed
the brakes is 19th century...This can be a quick Solo 20 minute job every Spring or ....Masochism.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:40 PM
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Brake Hoses

Jimmy,

How old are yours?
Are they "Rubber" or Stain-Less Steel braid with a Teflon inner liner?

When you step on the brake pedal with the engine running ,do the Brake Hoses
"Bulge" visibly?
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Old 09-06-2009, 06:53 AM
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As mentioned it's best to use a pressure bleeder rather than pressing the brake pedal which can cause problems with the master cylinder since the piston goes beyond its normal travel. Bleeding sequence is RR, LR, RF, LF. Be sure the rear chamber of the master cylinder is filled with brake fluid so as not to introduce air into the system.
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:46 PM
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MB spec is to flush/replace brake fluid every year on that car, so ya might as well start with that and see if it fixes the issue. It certainly wouldn't hurt to inspect all brake hoses since you will have to bleed yet again if you find a bad hose afterwards.

James Dean? I thought you were partial to Porsches.........
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