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speednjay 01-03-2011 11:07 PM
sharphid.com has always gave me good service

lsmalley 01-04-2011 12:07 AM
Here is some actual of of a video I shot about 2 years ago with my Silverstar Ultra lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc2bCNFkC1k

and here is the one a did just today with my 8000k HID installation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUikO0V2lwI

ps2cho 01-04-2011 12:43 AM
I've heard HID kits will cause the module to believe a bulb is out, is that right?
Which kit are you using lsmalley?

The height of the beam is the most important factor regardless of Halogen vs HID. Anybody who uses HID just must realize they have a greater and more important duty to ENSURE you are set up correctly. If not, you gain illumination whilst someone else, potentially dangerous situation due to glare.

lsmalley 01-04-2011 12:50 AM
not sure which kit I'm using. I had mine installed at a shop. but no, the module is fine.

compu_85 01-04-2011 10:20 AM
8000k... hmm....

-J

lsmalley 01-04-2011 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by compu_85 (Post 2624732)
8000k... hmm....

-J

Ah ha! yes, 8000k is close to the bluish end of the spectrum as opposed to the 6000k, but never the less that output is similar to that of the Lexus LS 430 .....I made sure that I made it clear to him when I was getting the installation done. Those LS 430's have amazing output!

LandYaghtLover 01-04-2011 10:47 AM
The more you move away from 4.3k, the less lumen and less visibility. To each his own! I had 6k but will try 4.3k on the Benz.

lsmalley 01-04-2011 03:41 PM
yes, thats what the guy told me...or something to that extent, which is why he didn't recommend getting anything above the 8000k. intresting that you're going for the 4300k, I actually just looked at my Silverstar package and it says that they are 4100k. Why didn't you stick with the 6000k? Surely those will be a lot brighter than the 4300k. I even think that Acura may use the 6000k. I know that I have seen some Range Rovers that go above the 10000k (I think)which give the lights that purplish tint.

LandYaghtLover 01-04-2011 06:32 PM
Well several factors. I could order several 4.3k kits and they would all look a little different. 6k is what I had an liked a lot, but they still had a hint of blue. I prefer the "ice white" look, hence 4.3 or 5k. So for me I want a true whiter light with greater visibility over anything showing shades of blue or purple.

mike-81-240d 01-05-2011 12:53 AM
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Well whatever. I'm just saying that if someone wants to have better ligting for their vehicle and it doesn't adversely affect anyone else then what is the problem? I have HID installed on my car, I have driven behind police and oncoming traffice without any problems. I can see 100 times better than the regular halogens, so whats the big deal? I see better, no one is hurt or blinded.....am I missing something? I have seen HID installations that are sub-par, but a lot of aftermarket HID are nice. Here are some pictures that are not really that great taken from my camera phone, unfortunately the true output of the lighting can't be captured at night, but pretty much everything gets illuminated about 50 yards + - and several yards on either direction......without blinding oncoming traffic ;) (the lights may look blue, but they are actually white, combination of taking pitures at night in conjunction with a camera phone).
The light directly in front of the car looks horrid. Just saying, no offense. My 33 year old euro low specs do better than that. :eek:

Anyway a bi xenon retrofit involving projectors is the only way to go, and even if you go that far you still need to vaccu-form new plastic lenses without the flutting in them.

I'll attach some pics I borrowed from hidplanet. This is a vehicle that did not come new with HID's, it was a proper retrofit. I will be doing this very soon, with my vaccum leveling euro lights, as well as installing washer squirter's in the bumper. In theory it will still be illegal though.

mike-81-240d 01-05-2011 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lsmalley (Post 2625048)
Acura may use the 6000k. I know that I have seen some Range Rovers that go above the 10000k (I think)which give the lights that purplish tint.
You sir just lost my respect. :mad:

Before saying unjust falsified statements like these please do your homework. The reason range rovers and Acuras look so much different than your ricer pnp kit isn't because of the kelvin rating of the bulb. Every single vehicle in this country that came new with xenons has had 4100-4300k bulbs... every one. The color your experiencing in those fine automobiles is actually the color flicker, which is caused by the cut off shield inside the projector. The cut off shield is there so they don't blind people, like for example losers who put pnp kits in their W201's.


You just got owned by a 16 year old using 55 watt H4's. :P

LandYaghtLover 01-05-2011 01:51 AM
In interest of avoiding cheap HIDs I have been looking at Philips. They make a few kits. They are H4 but not bi-xenon. Instead there is a singular light source and a magnetic shield that moves out of the way for hi-beam.

Anyone have experience with Philips?

compu_85 01-05-2011 01:55 AM
I have philips xtreme vision H4 lamps in my SDL. The output is fantastic, and I didn't have to modify the lamp failure monitor to get them working correctly ;)

-J

lsmalley 01-05-2011 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mike-81-240d (Post 2625749)
You sir just lost my respect. :mad:

Before saying unjust falsified statements like these please do your homework. The reason range rovers and Acuras look so much different than your ricer pnp kit isn't because of the kelvin rating of the bulb. Every single vehicle in this country that came new with xenons has had 4100-4300k bulbs... every one. The color your experiencing in those fine automobiles is actually the color flicker, which is caused by the cut off shield inside the projector. The cut off shield is there so they don't blind people, like for example losers who put pnp kits in their W201's.


You just got owned by a 16 year old using 55 watt H4's. :P
I agree that the lights in the photos I posted don't look the greatest, as I stated, because using a camera phone at night against light just doesn't work. The pictures you show in your post are actually similar to what I am looking at when I drive and I don't think that may statements were false considering that words such as"may" or "I think" were used. As far as knowing any losers that put pnp kits in w201's and 16 year olds that use 55w h4's.....I wouldn't know anything about that, not exactly that type of people I surround myself with.

mike-81-240d 01-07-2011 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover (Post 2625770)
Anyone have experience with Philips?
From what I've heard Philips never made HID kits, what people are doing is taking the cheap kits and labeling them as Philips and selling them for 3 times the price. If you really are stuck on doing hid's the wrong way I suggest looking into casper shields and 85122 D2s bulbs. Still not going to have any foreground light compared to a retrofit though, but it's the least glare filled option.


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