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mike-81-240d 01-07-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lsmalley (Post 2625786)
As far as knowing any losers that put pnp kits in w201's and 16 year olds that use 55w h4's.....I wouldn't know anything about that, not exactly that type of people I surround myself with.

I didn't know it was possible to not surround yourself with your self?:confused: You sir are the guy with the pnp kit powered W201. And simply that.

Where as my 33 year old headlights put out an amazing amount of light, as well as have a sharp cutoff that doesn't blind on coming motorists. And my headlight have stock 55 watt halogen bulbs.

Do your homework. Any hid kit is a bad idea.

LandYaghtLover 01-07-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-81-240d (Post 2629663)
From what I've heard Philips never made HID kits, what people are doing is taking the cheap kits and labeling them as Philips and selling them for 3 times the price. If you really are stuck on doing hid's the wrong way I suggest looking into casper shields and 85122 D2s bulbs. Still not going to have any foreground light compared to a retrofit though, but it's the least glare filled option.

Really? Odd since Philips is where I got my info in the first place!

http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_en/automotive/consumer_products/xenon.php?main=us_en_automotive&parent=79912999330&id=&lang=en

http://www.lighting.philips.com.hk/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1012969&app=car_&vp=ultimate%20light&va=ultimate%20light

mike-81-240d 01-08-2011 12:30 AM

From the applications tab on the second link you posted.
  • "Original equipment suitable for direct replacement"
Pretty sure it says original equipment for direct replacement? And it doesnt say anything about being DOT approved.

lsmalley 01-08-2011 04:57 AM

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Such a shame that some people just have to be right in every aspect of a debate....even when hard facts (and obvious links) are presented right before them. Probably would've done better on a debate team, rather than going above and beyond to prove someone wrong instead of just offering constructive criticism.....Anywho, this isn't some 16 year olds social network so I'll end it there. Just wanted to post these new pictures of my "ricer pnp HID kit" I hope the glare doesn't blind anyone :D

lsmalley 01-08-2011 04:58 AM

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.....and one more :D

LandYaghtLover 01-08-2011 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mike-81-240d (Post 2630047)
From the applications tab on the second link you posted.
  • "Original equipment suitable for direct replacement"
Pretty sure it says original equipment for direct replacement? And it doesnt say anything about being DOT approved.

And pretty sure it does not say "Hey, these kits are fake even though we have them on out site.".

LandYaghtLover 01-08-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mike-81-240d (Post 2630047)
And it doesnt say anything about being DOT approved.

Hope you did not put Euro lights on any of your cars! ;)

compu_85 01-08-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by compu_85 (Post 2624430)

Do the test I suggested. If your lights have proper cutoff and distribution you have nothing to hide. If there truly is a cheap, easy to install HID kit that provides proper lighting I'd love to see it.

-J

You guys have posted images of light on the road. Interesting, but useless for comparison. I know its a bit of work, but I really would like to see the difference in beam pattern in a semi controlled environment.

Or if you have a spare HID kit I'll pay for shipping, and do a review :)

-J

ps2cho 01-08-2011 12:24 PM

That is quite incredible light output, I'll hand it to you.

What are you using for the fog lights?

lsmalley 01-08-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho (Post 2630318)
That is quite incredible light output, I'll hand it to you.

What are you using for the fog lights?

if u are referring to my photos, thanks. as for fog lights, I swapped my halogens out for H3 LED's. when I was having my "cheap kit" installed the guy said I could get one of two sets, with or without highbeams.The high beams were an extra $100, but he assured me I didn't need them and also said that I wouldn't need my fog lights. before I had my hid kit, I removed the yellow dome from my fog lights and I would use them in conjunction with my regular lights because the lighting was terrible and I needed extra light. since that is no longer an issue, I ditched the halogens for a more updated look. The LED's are more for novelty than anything.

And as stated before, I know in previous photos my lights looked bluish, but I am running the 8000k which my be right on the brink of the blue color spectrum for lighting, but it is such a crisp white, I love it. even when I am next to, say a new 750i, my lights hit the ground as an awesome white, while the 750, still has that slightly yellow tint to it.

LandYaghtLover 01-08-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lsmalley (Post 2630465)
...while the 750, still has that slightly yellow tint to it.

Well yellow like = more visibility. Hence the color of fog lights. Which is also why I am going 4.3k. Just a hint of yellow. Although Philips comes in 6k also. Maybe I will get a set of each just to test out.

lsmalley 01-08-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover (Post 2630497)
Well yellow like = more visibility. Hence the color of fog lights. Which is also why I am going 4.3k. Just a hint of yellow. Although Philips comes in 6k also. Maybe I will get a set of each just to test out.

Are the phillips brand expensive? And do you need to do any modifications with ballasts or anything? Would they have projector retrofits for older cars? It would be interesting to see if you do get both to post side by side pictures of the 6000k and the 4300k. Because even as having the 8000k, I haven't noticed a really big difference in visibilty other than the fact that standing side by side with someone that has the 4300k, I notice the difference in color of mine being white and theirs having a slight yellow tint.

LandYaghtLover 01-08-2011 09:16 PM

All I looked at was Philips H4. I think they come in very, very few bases. They are magnetic. So the light source is singular and a "shade" on a magnetic solenoid (is there any other?) moved out the way to provide the high beam. My concern is the shade. The stock one may have to come out making for a little more work.

raymond~ 01-09-2011 02:26 AM

I have been working with HIDs, performing retrofits using OEM parts for approx
5 years.

any HID lighting not otherwise replacing an OEM part of the same model is not legal in the US.

HID drop in kits have never been made available by Philips or Osram, only direct
OEM replacement

the hot and cold spots on the photos posted by lsmalley approach some of the
worst I've seen outside of HID kits into Depos. rare is it, that you will ever see
OEM HID lighting with this degree of uneveness

OEM Kelvin ranged from 4-5kšK depending on D2R, D2S, or D1S, never higher

the color seen on OEM HIDs are as mike indicated, ie refraction off the top
edge of the cutoff plate. you will not see this effect from D2R reflectors

some folks have had success moderating the glare from HID kits by shimming
the bulb so that the focal point is as close to the halogen bulb's focal point
as possible. but when you view the beam against a wall, invariably you will
see some glare.....definitely more glare than OEM

what I hate is when I come upon an opposing car with poorly assembled HID
kits (most of them are)....on a dark road when I'm on touring on the motor-
cycle. I've been run off the road 2x due to the lack of calibration by such
discourteous drivers who's only thought is THEIR bright light in front of their
car.

here is a good example of proper HID retrofit. I used E55 projector.
http://oi53.tinypic.com/vhbymg.jpg

here is one of the best I've seen. person used Stanley OEM projector
http://i9.tinypic.com/314468h.jpg

lsmalley 01-09-2011 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by raymond~ (Post 2631043)
I have been working with HIDs, performing retrofits using OEM parts for approx
5 years.

any HID lighting not otherwise replacing an OEM part of the same model is not legal in the US.

HID drop in kits have never been made available by Philips or Osram, only direct
OEM replacement

the hot and cold spots on the photos posted by lsmalley approach some of the
worst I've seen outside of HID kits into Depos. rare is it, that you will ever see
OEM HID lighting with this degree of uneveness

OEM Kelvin ranged from 4-5kšK depending on D2R, D2S, or D1S, never higher

the color seen on OEM HIDs are as mike indicated, ie refraction off the top
edge of the cutoff plate. you will not see this effect from D2R reflectors

some folks have had success moderating the glare from HID kits by shimming
the bulb so that the focal point is as close to the halogen bulb's focal point
as possible. but when you view the beam against a wall, invariably you will
see some glare.....definitely more glare than OEM

what I hate is when I come upon an opposing car with poorly assembled HID
kits (most of them are)....on a dark road when I'm on touring on the motor-
cycle. I've been run off the road 2x due to the lack of calibration by such
discourteous drivers who's only thought is THEIR bright light in front of their
car.

here is a good example of proper HID retrofit. I used E55 projector.
http://oi53.tinypic.com/vhbymg.jpg

here is one of the best I've seen. person used Stanley OEM projector
http://i9.tinypic.com/314468h.jpg

Raymond, now those are some amazing photos with excellent lighting. Can't deny those thats for sure.


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