I agree that the lights in the photos I posted don't look the greatest, as I stated, because using a camera phone at night against light just doesn't work. The pictures you show in your post are actually similar to what I am looking at when I drive and I don't think that may statements were false considering that words such as"may" or "I think" were used. As far as knowing any losers that put pnp kits in w201's and 16 year olds that use 55w h4's.....I wouldn't know anything about that, not exactly that type of people I surround myself with.

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1990 190E 3.0L

I didn't know it was possible to not surround yourself with your self? You sir are the guy with the pnp kit powered W201. And simply that.

Where as my 33 year old headlights put out an amazing amount of light, as well as have a sharp cutoff that doesn't blind on coming motorists. And my headlight have stock 55 watt halogen bulbs.

Do your homework. Any hid kit is a bad idea.

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1981 300TD 4 speed manual
Euro bumpers, zender valance and skirts, H&R springs, billy HD's, leveled sls, real AMG Pentas 16x8 et11, vdo boost/egt gauges intergrated into ash tray, eurolights, led 3rd brake light

Well several factors. I could order several 4.3k kits and they would all look a little different. 6k is what I had an liked a lot, but they still had a hint of blue. I prefer the "ice white" look, hence 4.3 or 5k. So for me I want a true whiter light with greater visibility over anything showing shades of blue or purple.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

In interest of avoiding cheap HIDs I have been looking at Philips. They make a few kits. They are H4 but not bi-xenon. Instead there is a singular light source and a magnetic shield that moves out of the way for hi-beam.

Anyone have experience with Philips?

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

From what I've heard Philips never made HID kits, what people are doing is taking the cheap kits and labeling them as Philips and selling them for 3 times the price. If you really are stuck on doing hid's the wrong way I suggest looking into casper shields and 85122 D2s bulbs. Still not going to have any foreground light compared to a retrofit though, but it's the least glare filled option.

Really? Odd since Philips is where I got my info in the first place!

http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_en/automotive/consumer_products/xenon.php?main=us_en_automotive&parent=79912999330&id=&lang=en

http://www.lighting.philips.com.hk/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1012969&app=car_&vp=ultimate%20light&va=ultimate%20light

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

From the applications tab on the second link you posted.

• "Original equipment suitable for direct replacement"

Pretty sure it says original equipment for direct replacement? And it doesnt say anything about being DOT approved.

And pretty sure it does not say "Hey, these kits are fake even though we have them on out site.".

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

Hope you did not put Euro lights on any of your cars!

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

I have philips xtreme vision H4 lamps in my SDL. The output is fantastic, and I didn't have to modify the lamp failure monitor to get them working correctly

-J

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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

Such a shame that some people just have to be right in every aspect of a debate....even when hard facts (and obvious links) are presented right before them. Probably would've done better on a debate team, rather than going above and beyond to prove someone wrong instead of just offering constructive criticism.....Anywho, this isn't some 16 year olds social network so I'll end it there. Just wanted to post these new pictures of my "ricer pnp HID kit" I hope the glare doesn't blind anyone

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That is quite incredible light output, I'll hand it to you.

What are you using for the fog lights?

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2016 Monsoon Gray Audi Allroad - 21k
2008 Black Mercedes E350 4Matic Sport - 131k
2014 Jeep Wranger Unlimited Sahara - 62k
2003 Gray Mercedes ML350 - 122k

if u are referring to my photos, thanks. as for fog lights, I swapped my halogens out for H3 LED's. when I was having my "cheap kit" installed the guy said I could get one of two sets, with or without highbeams.The high beams were an extra $100, but he assured me I didn't need them and also said that I wouldn't need my fog lights. before I had my hid kit, I removed the yellow dome from my fog lights and I would use them in conjunction with my regular lights because the lighting was terrible and I needed extra light. since that is no longer an issue, I ditched the halogens for a more updated look. The LED's are more for novelty than anything.

And as stated before, I know in previous photos my lights looked bluish, but I am running the 8000k which my be right on the brink of the blue color spectrum for lighting, but it is such a crisp white, I love it. even when I am next to, say a new 750i, my lights hit the ground as an awesome white, while the 750, still has that slightly yellow tint to it.

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1990 190E 3.0L

Well yellow like = more visibility. Hence the color of fog lights. Which is also why I am going 4.3k. Just a hint of yellow. Although Philips comes in 6k also. Maybe I will get a set of each just to test out.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car