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Old 11-30-2011, 06:43 PM
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Unhappy pressure bleeding

ok I went to NAPA and picked up a tire valve core, the type that has a rubber gromit and a nut to tighten or clamp it in place. I drilled a hole in the cap of the master cylinder and installed the valve core. I put pressure in it from my compressor but it leaks around the threds of the cap so I can not keep a steady pressure. yes the rubber o ring is in the cap. what the hell is next?

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Old 12-01-2011, 12:09 AM
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how much pressure are you using?

IIRC when I use the motive to pressurize it works wonderful under 15 PSI.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:18 AM
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how much pressure are you using?

IIRC when I use the motive to pressurize it works wonderful under 15 PSI.
I had my regulator dialed down to 30 psi
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I have not done a car like yours but I would go down to 5-8 lbs. I don't think I ever use 10 lbs even.
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I was able to bleed my master cylinder by using a motive pressure bleeder and then cracking open all the lines one by one.

It worked like a champ.
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I have not done a car like yours but I would go down to 5-8 lbs. I don't think I ever use 10 lbs even.
+1 on that. The 30lbs is way too high. I foresee complications with the compensating valve at that pressure. Also a possible conflict with any anti-lock braking system if you have one.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:38 AM
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+1 on that. The 30lbs is way too high. I foresee complications with the compensating valve at that pressure. Also a possible conflict with any anti-lock braking system if you have one.
Boy this is some sort of conflict, some of the post I have read say 30 psi and now the return comments are mutch less than I have read. I just orderd a Motive bleeder I hope this will fix the system! I am curios though, I built a pressure cap from the original master cylinder cap, and it leaks, is the one Motive has of thicker plastic?
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I'm pretty sure the bleeder itself has some type of internal regulator. 30 psi just seems way too much. I'd imagine brake fluid at 30 psi would shoot clear across the work shop.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:10 PM
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....The 30lbs is way too high. I foresee complications with the compensating valve at that pressure....
Agreed. At 30 PSI I foresee complications washing brake fluid from hair, eyes, garage wall, etc.
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I had my home made pressure bleeder pumped to 15 lbs while I was bleeding the clutch- the hose from the slave popped off and it looked like a brake fluid waterfall under the car.

30 lbs I'd be worried about cracking the fluid container!
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:50 PM
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I had my home made pressure bleeder pumped to 15 lbs while I was bleeding the clutch- the hose from the slave popped off and it looked like a brake fluid waterfall under the car.

30 lbs I'd be worried about cracking the fluid container!
well I toned down the pressure to 5psi then 10psi still no flow from the master I suspect that it is because of the air leak around the cap. I hope the motive gets to me today. perhaps we will find the answer, though I am troubled with wondering if the abs is pluged? I just do not know!
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When I had to replace a brake line on the 190 I could not get it to bleed until I got the pressure up to 15-20 lbs.
The one I made is a pump garden sprayer that I added a pressure gauge to. I bought a new reservoir cover and drilled the old one, which fits plenty tight. I loose pressure out of the O ring around the pressure gauge right at about 20 psi.
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When I had to replace a brake line on the 190 I could not get it to bleed until I got the pressure up to 15-20 lbs.
The one I made is a pump garden sprayer that I added a pressure gauge to. I bought a new reservoir cover and drilled the old one, which fits plenty tight. I loose pressure out of the O ring around the pressure gauge right at about 20 psi.
the damn motive bleeder did not arive today perhaps it will on sat. maybe I will succeed with that tool.
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Heck, you are under there already just try doing it the old fashioned way....
Put a wooden block under the brake pedal to limit the stroke so you don't damage the MC internal seals.

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Old 12-03-2011, 10:47 AM
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Heck, you are under there already just try doing it the old fashioned way....
Put a wooden block under the brake pedal to limit the stroke so you don't damage the MC internal seals.

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