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Old 06-17-2004, 09:48 AM
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W124 AMG Hammer

Hi,

Looking for help and guidance.

I have just purchased an AMG Hammer saloon/sedan fitted with a 5.0 or 5.6 V8, which in turn is fitted with AMG's own quad cam heads.

This particular car was built in 1986 and is a right hand drive car supplied in the UK. I'm lead to believe that it was the original press demonstration car.

The car is a non runner and needs a new engine block.

The question I have for you guys, does anybody out there know much about the technical aspect of these cars, especially the engines, and secondly does anybody know how many Hammers were actually built.......I have been able to find that just 13 Hammer coupe's were built and that there may have been less saloons/sedans manufactured.

Any help would be most appreciated.

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Old 06-17-2004, 10:48 AM
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Sweet ride. Still have those 1986 road tests in a box somewhere.

I wonder if the bottom end was modified much. Probably had to do something to take on the 510 NM of torque.

There is an AMG owners club. Perhaps they could help:

http://www.amg-owners-club.de/fset_e.htm
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Old 06-17-2004, 11:26 AM
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Also check the "Performance Paddock" forum section. I believe there are a few "AMG Hammer" owners and even those with 6.0L motors rescued from donor vehicles.

I read one thread in the "Cars for Sale" forum where an owner is selling his...
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Old 06-17-2004, 01:23 PM
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You probably have one of the only right hand drive W124 AMG cars. I never even read that they made one. That must have been a special order.

Those heads are very difficult to work with. What is wrong with the engine? Post a few pics.
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Old 06-18-2004, 04:51 AM
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You probably have one of the only right hand drive W124 AMG cars. I never even read that they made one. That must have been a special order.

Those heads are very difficult to work with. What is wrong with the engine? Post a few pics.
Many thanks for all of your posts.......much appreciated!

I tried to load up some photos yesterday but the system could'nt take it.........heres a link to another site with some photos

http://forums.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1176972&posts=13

In terms of the engine, 7 years ago just before the car was laid up, the previous owner had a couple of head gasket failures, which I understand is not uncommon on these engines.

What I have been told so far and I have yet to check it out is as follows.......it would be interesting whether this makes sense to you guys!

In an effort to sort out the blowing head gaskets an engine shop installed some oversized helicoils into the block and over torqued the heads. This apparently caused the cylinder walls in the block to bulge out slightly as the helicoils have been put in very close to the edges of the cylinders. I have been told that you can only detect the damage with a micrometer.

They claim that this damage then caused massive coolant losses and they also mentioned something about the block becoming porous.......whether this is the case I'm not sure yet.

But it has got me thinking, could the block be rebored and have cylinder liners put in to get rid of the distortion?

I have also been told that the heads themselves are fine.

In time I imagine that the true state of the engine will be determined.....thats likely to be a long way off as I imagine that any work on this engine will not be cheap!!!!!!

Many thanks

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