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WVO pump woes
I've searched so don't yell please......
Bought a pump to transfer my WVO but not being a self primer it is impossible to keep the prime. Least little bit of air and you have to reprime. You guys know of a reasonably priced self priming pump? Harbor freight has one but its 12 volt and I need a 110. Don't know about this WVO thing. Got a bunch of money/time invested with more to go. Haven't found a decent source yet either and have spent lots of fuel/time on that too. I'm begining to think it is not worth it but I guess will keep trying. Here's the pump I bought:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4645750998&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT Cheers, Bill |
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I can't answer your question because I am new to the WVOthing , too, but you might look around or ask over here:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc I am having trouble finding sources as well. I'm trying hard to go cheap (with manual harbor freight pump), free barrels and junkyard soleniods, etc. I want a quick return on investment and then I'll upgrade with the savings. I am afraid we will be competing with commercial biofuels companies if oil prices go any higher. I am not willing to invest $1000 on a kit that may be useless,
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The pump shown is a rubber vane, pd (positive dispalcement) type which means that it will self prime to a height of about 20 ft. If you are losing the prime you have a serious air leak either in the inlet hose or in the pump housing. I can't vouch for a Harbor Freight pump that only cost $25. A good rubber vane pump by Jabsco, etc. will cost over $100 w/o the motor. I have one that is over 40 years old and it will suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. If you are going to mess with wvo you need a good pd pump. Don't mess with any 12v pump. They just don't have the power.
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Bill, how about a washing machine pump or dishwasher pump? These can be had at a great price at the local dump and they are surprisingly durable. Back when my kids had little feet, the washer was always being pushed to the limit. On 3 seperate occasions I disassembled the washer pump to remove a small sock. Never had to replace it though. Let me know what you find. This MAY be the year I finally make a biodiesel reactor.
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My local hardware store has a pump that goes on an electric drill. It looks to me like it would be perfect for that use. Price class was about $10.
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Kip.....I'm thinking that maybe it is my check valve. I've got it up near the pump on the inlet side. Maybe I'll try moving it down towards the end. It does suck good but the second I get a tiny bit of air it loses prime. It is not a self primer as it does have a priming port. No way would I go for the 12V pump. For Christmas I got this cool battery charger, compressor thing with 2 AC outlets. Perfect for running a small pump like the one I bought. I think it came from Wally Mart. Charge it up and ya got 110 for about an hour with 400 watts.
Pete.....wish I would've thought of a dishwasher/washer pump before I invested in this one. Thats a great idea although I am not too sure if it would work as WVO is thicker than water. For free it would've been worth a shot. Palangi.....I thought about the drill pump route. Problem there is I no longer have an electric drill so would have to buy one resulting in more expense. Somewhere I saw a hand held pump that you simply turn the crank to pump. Thanks for all the input guys. Cheers, Bill |
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But i broke my first one because some food product got stuck inside and tore the inside of the pump up! So i bought another one and bought a suction screen from greasel.com tp protect the drill pump. http://greasel.com/Individual-Components.html
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no success
i have had no success with pumps... but I have great success with wvo...
1. I have now driven thousands of miles on wvo... 100%... 2. You have to go to small places.... most small community bars fry things. Tell them what you are doing... its like a bar joke... they will be glad to give it to you... most of them will put it back into the 5gal cubby for you... I pick up 5 cubbies a week from 4 places... stop spending money, I use old bluejean legs for filters... I use an old camera tripod to hold it up... I use an oil change pot to catch it in... I have a few barrels given to me from the car wash... |
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I used to use a 12v pump to collect WVO on the road, it was slow and messy. Build yourself a sucker, you can find plans at infopop. I got the pressure tank for free, maybe $30 for hose and fittings and $30 for a fridge compressor to draw a vacuum. Works great, I would never go back to a pump.
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Blueranger......I found a great source today. At least I think so. We'll see when I get a sample of their oil. Its a small local pizza shop. They're cooking mainly french fries with an occasional fish so it should be good. They won't put it back in the cubbies because the oil is still hot when they dump.
I had to buy my barrels. Car washes here are miles away and the barrel guy is about 5 miles. I am using the folded bedsheet over chicken wire method of filtering. Peter.....I'll have to see what you're talking about when I get the chance. I wonder if one of those hand type bilge pumps from the marine store would work? I can see that using a pump like mine is going to be messy. Cheers, Bill |
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good work
good work...
how much are they throwing out each week... explain the sheet chicken wire thing to me... i might want to try it... i put a wire tie on the bottom of a bluejean leg and hang it from the bottom of an old camera tripod... the best catch basin i have found is an oil change pot with a spot... i go straight to my cars tank with the spot.... i need to be able to get some oil from the bins and I need some help with this.. i bought a pump 12v from harbor freight and it did not work... a lot of times the people who are changing it hot will put water in it... no big deal you just have to let it sit a day or two... |
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Any of you guys see the air powered barrel pump at harbor frieght? You hook it up to an air compressor. It looks pretty screwy, but I'll bet its got the oomph to do WVO.
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Pumps, etc...
Though new to the WVO thing myself, I have run several 50+gallon batches using the same pump from Harbor Freight. I had a friend who can weld put a nipple and valve at the bottom of my barrels so the WVO runs downhill to the pump. Especially with a little heat, it works great.
For collection, I use a Harbor Freight hand pump. If you order the high volume one off the web site (the grey one--not the red one), you'd be suprised how much WVO you can move around in hardly any time at all. As far as investment $$$ is concerned, most of your gear will pay itself off the first time you use it. The rest is just gravy. RSCarey |
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Don't know how much I'll get nor do the owners. They just bought their fryer. Chicken wire filter...I searched and found that idea in another post. You just make the wire cone shaped to fit in the top of the barrel then take a flat bed sheet and fold it 4x then lay over the wire. Cheap filter for sure. I bought the 100v pump because I've got that Wally Mart portable AC unit and can use the pump both here and when I go collect. I'll have to check out the Harbor Freight hand pump. Seems to me you have better control and won't make a mess. The mess will surely get my WVO supply cut off so I've got to keep it clean around the collection site. Thanks a ton for all of your input. I might have given up without all your help but now I guess I'll keep trying. Gotta beat this $3/gallon BS. Cheers, Bill |
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northern tool and supply. They have lots of pumps at reasonable prices(diesel and oil transfer pumps). Mabey one will work for you.I just bought a small drill operated pump(14.99) from them but havn't used it yet.I will try to collect some tomorrow and report back on how it works.
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