They were putting GAS in a diesel?

Even I have problems with that!

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

Hi Jim-
Frankie here. Gee you have problems with "gas" in the tank? Ha ha ha ha. Let's hope he meant diesel. Was it you or Jeremy that showed me his sheepskin seatcovers? I want to let you know that I did buy sheepskins from sheepskins.com after all. Inferior, I know but they work really well for me. Matches my palomino interior too.

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Frankie
It never ends!
1985 300D Turbo 181K Anthracite grey, "SOPHIA"
1984 300 SD Turbo(sold)
2004 Subaru Forester XT,Cayenne red.

I would like to put in my two cents, even though no one asked me to. I believe that nowadays the Lovecraft system will actually get your car up to 160F or so pre injector pump temperatures after the engine is up to operating temperatures. A year ago I believe I read reports of more like 120F pre-injector pump, or so even in balmy Southern California weather. I have read that they have a new heated filter that is not a Davco, but a custom made thingy.

But the important thing to me when considering a one tank conversion is that when they are started and the engine is at ambient temperatures, diesel engines bypass fuel through the rings and into the crankcase. I have read that all diesel engines do this by their very nature. Now if you are using diesel, this is not a big deal, you are just diluting your engine oil. But if you are starting up your cold engine on veg oil, some of this oil is bypassing the rings and going into your crankcase. If you do this a whole bunch of times without changing the engine oil frequently enough, your engine oil is capable of polymerizing; sort of like turning into mayonaisse. Also while this small amount of veg oil is passing by the rings, some will also stay on the rings, and after an extended period of time the rings will coke up and start to score or sieze on the cylinder walls, thus causing engine damage.

How long will this take? I believe it would be quite a few thousand miles, like 100 to 200 thousand. But the damage will happen sooner or later. That is why I believe that two tank systems are the most intelligent choice even in warmer climates. If you wait until the engine is up to normal operating temperature before you inject veg oil, there will be no bypassing of fuel past the rings and the cylinder walls will be hot enough to discourage droplets of fuel forming on them and causing ring coking.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Two tank conversion, heated fuel pick-up, coolant heated Hose-in-Hose (HIH) fuel line, Frybrid heated veg filter, Frybrid heat exchanger, 1984 300SD

Gilbert

Well let me explain my situation. I own a restaurant and it produces more W.V.O. than I can use. I own a 1984 300 D with a lovecraft conversion, its been mine for almost a year. I have a free fuel source and the car is set up, I am not going to switch to diesel. If I had never stumbled on this forum, i wouldnt know my car was about to die!!!I probably wont ever cut with diesel. If anyone would like to guide me through the steps... I will pull the injectors and take pictures every couple thousand miles and keep you guys posted. I am going to install the injection line heaters, I know its futile! I am curious to know the real effects of running wvo this way. and if anyone else is interested I will try to post it.

Yah that was me, Frankie. I'm glad you found a set that worked for you.
I remember your '85 sedan, it was VERY VERY clean. I believe you said you were thinking about a repaint. I think that would be a waste of money, it's best to keep the original paint as long as possible, a good detail
job will do wonders on those cars, with respect to the paint.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

I guess you will find out. I'd be very interested, please post it. Inj line heaters will help, since you already have a done deal conversion, hopefully with the LC newer hotter heater not the original heater.
I do remember that when I saw their website about 6 months ago, the very first page showed their "upgraded" heater. I thought that was very interesting use of words for advertising now that I think about it. Not the "oops we realize that our heaters need to get hotter" heater.
Just a thought.
Frankie

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It never ends!
1985 300D Turbo 181K Anthracite grey, "SOPHIA"
1984 300 SD Turbo(sold)
2004 Subaru Forester XT,Cayenne red.

Yeah Jim but it is easy to miss that sun damaged area at the sides of the car due to the original color being dark grey. I meant to thank you awhile back for deterring me from an expensive paint job. You are right it can wait. I did spend $300 to repair the rust damage on the sunroof though. A relief that the rust was not too deep.
Are you going to the next drive in the East bay? I don't think they set a date yet. This forum is the only place I feel comfortable talking so much about my Benz "sophia". People understand here without laughing at me or looking at me like I'm crazy. Don't you agree?

F.

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Frankie
It never ends!
1985 300D Turbo 181K Anthracite grey, "SOPHIA"
1984 300 SD Turbo(sold)
2004 Subaru Forester XT,Cayenne red.

That's the key problem with Lovecrap and single tank "conversions" in general.

After reading the first two pages of this thread, I gotta tell you, you guys rock!!


Gearheads rule!!

Most Auto owners would have to laugh at this... Your saying that I run a free alternative fuel that is probably more environmentally friendly than Gas/Diesel, on a single tank system with no switchover or purge, on a great looking classic car that is 23 years old with 125,000 miles, and the way Im going ill only get another 17-20 years out of my sub-$5000 investment. That works out pretty well by most peoples standards.

Quinn
What kind of veggie oil does your restaurant use? What city are you in?
Frankie

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Frankie
It never ends!
1985 300D Turbo 181K Anthracite grey, "SOPHIA"
1984 300 SD Turbo(sold)
2004 Subaru Forester XT,Cayenne red.

BTW, you have a good point.

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Frankie
It never ends!
1985 300D Turbo 181K Anthracite grey, "SOPHIA"
1984 300 SD Turbo(sold)
2004 Subaru Forester XT,Cayenne red.

It's a low-mileage classic car that might not live to see 200,000 at that rate.

we use Rice Bran Oil. I supplement from the restaurant next door, who uses some kind of blend,soy bean and cotton seed, i think. I'm in Los Angeles

That would still be 10 years of driving. Remember I feel the same way about the lovecraft guys as most of you do. and I have had the misfortune of dealing with their slacker hippy antics in exchange for my hard earned money. I am open to other Ideas on conversions, but the reality is this is not going so bad, so far.