WVO vs Diesel debate. - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

The Swede · #16 09-14-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee

I did a fair amount of research into the GreaseCar 2-tank system before I decided against it mainly due to my driving habits. While there were some issues with the switchover valves, it did seem to be designed well. They're relatively close by to me so if there were a problem it would be easier than dealing with someone across the country.

Seamless for us (especially for you in MN) is somewhat relative since if we were to run WVO year-round it would have to be a 2 tank system requiring switching over once the temp. is built up.

Frybrid is another system that looks well though out. I'm sure there are others (probably even by some fellow forum members) but since I didn't go that route my research stopped.

Meh. Too much putzing around. Do these cars start in sub zero temps? Plus I don't want this in the back of my car.

Hatterasguy · #17 09-14-2007, 09:51 PM

Nah its a hobby, you have to really like messing with greasy crap. As far as winter, it turns to gell, unless you cut it with gas or something like that. Either way you have to babysit the system.

Matt SD300 · #18 09-15-2007, 11:46 PM

What you guys don't know about WVO....is a lot......

hotrodrx · #19 09-16-2007, 04:11 PM

I bought an 82 300sd PARTS car. It didn't have an engine or tranny. I bought a well used engine, used tranny, new radiator, a/c, every front end part, including radial arm bushings, new shocks, the list goes on and on. I converted it to wvo and am well satisfied. Before the conversion, I did my homework and made my decision on what was suitable for me. A year later and 30,000 miles, things are going very smooth. This forum has been very helpful and I appreciate the knowledge gained, as learning and sharing seems to be a key theme here. I haven't hacked up anything, all my work looks professional and I am not about to advertise myself. I am doing what I think is best for me. Every car that I have owned was better when I sold that when I bought. I'm sure that there scores of people just like me doing the very same thing. Bill

Hatterasguy · #20 09-16-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

What you guys don't know about WVO....is a lot......

Really....

sixto · #21 09-16-2007, 05:49 PM

I take Hatterasguy's point to be that a considerable number of folks who dabble in running WVO don't know as much as they should about doing so successfully.

Sixto
87 300D

Hatterasguy · #22 09-16-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto

I take Hatterasguy's point to be that a considerable number of folks who dabble in running WVO don't know as much as they should about doing so successfully.

Sixto
87 300D

Thats about it. I hate seeing MB's trashed on the learning curve.

Brian Carlton · #23 09-16-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto

I take Hatterasguy's point to be that a considerable number of folks who dabble in running WVO don't know as much as they should about doing so successfully.

Sixto
87 300D

I'm still waiting for a partial list of the "considerable number of folks" who trashed a perfectly good W-123 or W-126.

In fact, I'm still waiting for the first example on that list.

dkveuro · #24 09-16-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I'm still waiting for a partial list of the "considerable number of folks" who trashed a perfectly good W-123 or W-126.

In fact, I'm still waiting for the first example on that list.

Well.....I heard....that is....that someone once said, that they know of someone, who knew somebody who had !!

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The Swede · #25 09-16-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I'm still waiting for a partial list of the "considerable number of folks" who trashed a perfectly good W-123 or W-126.

Every Merc that's been featured on greasecar.com?

KIDDING!

I'm neutral.

Palangi · #26 09-16-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I'm still waiting for a partial list of the "considerable number of folks" who trashed a perfectly good W-123 or W-126.

In fact, I'm still waiting for the first example on that list.

When they have killed off the car, there's no reason they would come back and let anyone know.

Check out the rocket scientest in post #7 here:

Oil line blew - now heavy blue smoke on boost

I could be wrong, but I bet he crossed the fuel lines with the IP oil line.

There have been any number of 'em like this where they show up, waste everybodys time (quite often without mentioning the hacked fuel system), then they just dissappear. Sometimes the alt fuel guys try to help them out, but quite often they are nowhere to be found.

Personally, I have stopped trying to help any new users with fuel system problems because it has become a complete waste of time. I bet I'm not the only one.

Brian Carlton · #27 09-16-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

When they have killed off the car, there's no reason they would come back and let anyone know.

Check out the rocket scientest in post #7 here:

Oil line blew - now heavy blue smoke on boost

I could be wrong, but I bet he crossed the fuel lines with the IP oil line.

There have been any number of 'em like this where they show up, waste everybodys time (quite often without mentioning the hacked fuel system), then they just dissappear. Sometimes the alt fuel guys try to help them out, but quite often they are nowhere to be found.

Personally, I have stopped trying to help any new users with fuel system problems because it has become a complete waste of time. I bet I'm not the only one.

I certainly agree that such individuals exist. However, I've never personally seen a "perfectly good W-123 or W-126" suffer from the lack of knowledge from those who wish to run WVO.

Naturally, if I'm going to conclude that "I hate this whole WVO thing" and I'm going to put up a separate thread on OD, I'd surely have personally seen at least a dozen of these things.

There are plenty of folks who successfully run WVO without issues.........it takes some knowledge and diligence.

Palangi · #28 09-16-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

There are plenty of folks who successfully run WVO without issues.........it takes some knowledge and diligence.

Let me state once again, just for the record, that I don't have anything against alternative fuel. I do get annoyed at hacks of any kind, and I have stopped wasting my time on them.

I respect some of the guys who make alt fuel look easy, although they are probably outnumbered 20 to 1 by the wankers and hacks.

Matt SD300 · #29 09-17-2007, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Really....

Yep........... at 70,000 miles on the stuff...I know a thing or two about what works and don't........

Ever heard this line?.....keep it simple.. stupid...........that's what "WVO"is all about.......

..........Single tank.....thing outside the box.......

Palangi · #30 09-17-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Yep........... at 70,000 miles on the stuff...I know a thing or two about what works and don't........

Ever heard this line?.....keep it simple.. stupid...........that's what "WVO"is all about.......

..........Single tank.....thing outside the box.......

I would have to agree with that. The ones who are successful seem to be running the simplest system, i.e. few, if any modifications. The ones who can't make it work are almost invariably the kit kiddies and shadetree hacks.

What works is to make the fuel fit the car, not try to make the car fit the fuel.