New veggy oil? - Page 24 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

RichC · #**346** 05-11-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightrider966

No one could convince you otherwise. I bought my Mercedes Benz to use alternative fuels as well, but I use biodiesel to avoid the problems of cold vegetable oil. You live in Texas and the heat from the climate your in helps. Thinning it out with other solvents will help.

The vehicle I bought was using straight veggie oil at temps less than 45* for startup and this is where most of the damage takes place. Yes, I worked for Chrysler and got my certification for my NIASE through Mercedes Benz.

From there I went to Paccar, the truck engine specialists.

Bottom line is you will only see what you want to so why do you even bother asking if you shoot down everyone who has something different to say and call it bull?

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Finally some honest experience from you.
Now we can get somewhere.

If you are really honest now we know that at least one person has
had problems running veggie when starting cold below 45 degrees.

What you are saying now is a far cry from what you were saying.

I can believe that it is possible to get some coking issues when starting
an engine on veggie when its below 45.

And I think it is possible to remedy or eliminate coking during cold weather
by blending veggie with some sort of thinner like naphthalene.

How will we ever learn anything about these cars if we are not honest
with each other ?

RichC

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thesst · #**347** 05-11-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightrider966

but you will find out that your not getting 300,000 miles out of it this way.

Go talk to user BrianMiller at the greasecar forum.

Brian Carlton · #**348** 05-11-2008, 04:37 PM

I suppose that they disappeared into that big off topic graveyard in the sky...........the place for all posts that don't belong on the current thread.

If you want to discuss the politics of oil, there's an open discussion forum. Have at it.

Isleham · #**349** 07-17-2008, 05:53 PM

If you mix diesel and "veggi whatever" in a 50/50 or even 20/80 mix. You paid tax on the diesel and the "additive" is just increasing the efficiency

Deni · #**350** 07-17-2008, 06:29 PM

What if I'm a rich guy and buy a tesla roadster which is an electric only car and is charged by plugging it. Do I have to pay road tax?

The prius is heavier than most cars of it's size, so it's damaging the roads more, though it's paying less tax to maintain the roads.

A diesel car is heavier than the equivalent petrol, so it's damaging the roads more, though it pays less tax.

The idea on taxing customers based on the amount of fuel is pretty flawed imo.

NoSparkNeeded · #**351** 07-17-2008, 06:58 PM

I've been one since, perhaps the 70's. I read "How I found freedom in an unfree world" by Harry Browne. I've lived that way ever since. I have not gone the way of my friend Randy. He declared himself a "free citizen" and
no longer registers his vehicles. It's legal, but a hassle I don't want.
As far as burning Costco oil, I'd do it in a second if it works without hurting my car. How about all those folks with electric cars? I'm sure they
didn't pay a tax to the gov.,even if they used electricity generated by fossil fuel. I speed, sometimes I use illict substances, I'll burn Costco oil
if after looking into it to see if I can. I DESPISE all sumptuary laws! I break them on a regular basis. If I can use something that is outside the fossil
fuel channel, I feel I'm HELPING my country. I don't give a bright red F*CK
about the law. Hell some laws kept blacks off the bus. As long as you assess risk vs. gain, burning Costco oil is like driving 89mph. I do that every time I'm out in my "other" car.

NoSparkNeeded · #**352** 07-17-2008, 07:06 PM

Can you add Costco oil to your car's tank safely? In what mix and with what additive? What are the mechanical consequences? Most of us could give a crap about the legality. No law enforcement agency could even tell
if half your tank was Costco oil if you didn't tell them,sheesh

cphilip · #**353** 07-17-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deni

A diesel car is heavier than the equivalent petrol, so it's damaging the roads more, though it pays less tax.

A Diesel pays more tax actually...

For the first quarter of 2008, the average state gasoline tax is 28.6 cents per US gallon, plus 18.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 47 cents per US gallon.

For diesel, the average state tax is 29.2 cents per US gallon plus an additional 24.4 cents per US gallon federal tax making the total 53.6 cents US per gallon

#**354** 07-17-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Isleham

If you mix diesel and "veggi whatever" in a 50/50 or even 20/80 mix. You paid tax on the diesel and the "additive" is just increasing the efficiency

Incorrect.

ad·di·tive (d-tv)
n.
A substance added in small amounts to something else to improve, strengthen, or otherwise alter it.

20%-50%+ of the total volume is not a small amount, you are substituting fuel or using a supplementary fuel.

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Can you add Costco oil to your car's tank safely?

No. It will coke the injectors and combustion chambers.

AlanTbird · #**355** 07-21-2008, 10:16 AM

I've been "adding" .50/quart motor oil and my 603 LOVES IT!
I would pee in the tank If I thought it would work!
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
If we built our roads right, they wouldn't need constant repair.
Why is BIO as mutch as reg. deisel?....who's screwin whom?

My two cents worth to start the week!

#**356** 07-21-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanTbird

Why is BIO as mutch as reg. deisel?

Production costs.