Not if I make laps around my driveway and yard! :D

I'm all for paying the "Mouths to feed" tax, but so far all i get are B.S. road taxes with little to no roadwork being done.

I'm not a neo-con i don't mind paying my share, but i wan't to see more checks and balances on where that money is actually going. I understand the arugument to pay taxes, but C'MON ! Just the fact that you not polluting the atmosphere should absolve you from paying the road taxes.

Yes, but the point is the taxed fuel is not directly charging the battery. So the propulsion from the electric motor is not taxed.

My personal guess is that Brian is going on the theory that if we keep it here, keep it ridiculous, then it won't spread somewhere else :D

So we are a disease in quarantine?

Not exactly. But there have certainly been numerous threads in the last six months, off of which have flown quickly off into vegetable politics.

I saw that piece. It's so full of misinformation that it's downright scary. His interpretation of the tax laws makes as much difference to the courts as mine, yours or Snipes'.

This just came down the wire:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-bk-wesley-snipes-sentencing-042408,0,1299381.story

"End result - no road tax is paid on these alternative fuels."

Amen!

After 9 pages... no one seems to be recognizing that the Illegality of VO and WVO is its unauthorized use as a fuel by EPA... collecting revenue for its use aside which is DOT ... its illegal (mostly in more places than not) due to the fact EPA has never evaluated and approved it. It is illegal by default since they have not evaluated and approved it. Of course that could change some day... but... it remains the case for the most part that it is an illegal Road fuel at this time.

Except for perhaps one state, which perhaps may be upheld or over ruled. We shall have to see. It does not appear to be a high priority enforcement issue for EPA at this time. But with a state passing legislation allowing it, which makes a State Regulation "less stringent" to the Federal regulation, I would now anticipate that EPA will start to address it. Either by ruling that state out of compliance and force them to comply, or find in fact it can be run by proposing a rule and then taking comments and then modifying that section of the Clean Air Act (I think its in that one, not sure but will poke around). But it is normally illegal for a State to pass an environmental regulation that is less stringent than the federal regulation. They can though pass more stringent regulations. In this case they would be passing a less stringent one. And I expect a show down on this one fairly soon. But "soon" in Government terms is like 2-3 years sometimes. However, any state that decides to approve it, irregardless of it not being Approved by EPA, is in violation of Federal law and subject to directive action by the EPA.

To hell with EPA

I have been saying that for months.

Expect the usual retorts...

Nuh uh, it IS legal!
Its better for the environment so I say it is legal!
Screw the EPA!
Its not illegal if they don't outlaw it.
It depends on who you ask.
Its not illegal if they don't know about me using it (Don't ask don't tell).
Etc...

No matter how you try to twist the truth in your mind, IT IS ILLEGAL.

Every state has a method to report fuel tax evasion.

I thought that was gays in the military that did the "don't ask, don't tell"?

You forgot the part that if they get caught, it will be unfair, etc, etc.

What Steve300 said: To hell with EPA

1. I am increasingly developing sympathy with the "To heck with them" attitude, as I watch things get more and more ridiculous (in the world, not just on the forum). Legalizing this, illegalizing that... it isn't going to ever solve the problems.

2. It is not "ILLEGAL!!!!" to run vegetable fuels in states where legal procedures to do so have been set up. State laws that make veggie oil a legal fuel do exist, in some forms or others. In those states, it is a 100% legal fuel, thus killing the "No matter how you twist it" argument.

3. Regardless of any of the politics or morals or anything else.... one Mercedes or a hundred or a thousand makes no difference in the long run. You'd have to run every veggie Mercedes currently in this country (the USA, whose laws we are fighting over for the most part) - until they wouldn't run any longer, for the next hundred years, and the roads would probably STILL not show any signs of damage for which we should all be forced to pay. We're small fry. We're talking about a relatively minuscule amount of damage and a slightly less minuscule amount of money we're discussing handing back to them.

In other words... no matter who's "right" here, how much difference does it make on a practical level? none if any.

I smell 1984.

Libertarian my a$$.