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Old 08-27-2010, 12:12 PM
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Why bother with the Bio D route, there are so many complications. Just convert the vehicle with a well designed system like the Frybrid kit and be done with it. No more Lye or Methanol to deal with, no blowing up the garage and or house, and no unreacted Bio D to worry about. I made one batch of Bio D and immediately decided to go the WVO route and have been very happy with the Frybrid results. I had a different kit in the vehicle ( Mercedes Source) CRAP and after being towed too many times to count, I pulled the Mercedes Source electrically heated sysetm out and put in the Frybrid. I love my Frybrid Kit. I am not affiliated with Frybrid I am just a very happy customer. I spoke to the local Fire Department about storing 1000 gallons of WVO on my property and they said "no problem its not flamable like gasoline or diesel or bio D.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:20 PM
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Bio making ain't that hard

I have been doing it for the last 5 years and have never had a failed batch. If you are interested look up my posts on the biodiesel infopop forums under the same username as here. The cautions regarding doing it badly are well taken. It is near impossible to wash a poorly made batch but here are a couple of remedial measures that can save your butt. Too much lye and you have a really big pot of soap. Any significant amount of glycerol will make washing a slow painful process so drain well. This is where a conebottom tank really shines. Vinegar in small amounts will break an emulsion and you can wash it out in subsequent wash cycles. Heat is your friend in breaking emulsions as well. For a beginner don't scrimp on the methyl hydrate either a, good 20% will help in avoiding failed batches. Also most people don't mix near enough or long enough. Don't overheat the oil 125-130 degrees is best. otherwise the methyl hydrate starts to evaporate. Getting good oil to start with is key as well. Greek and sushi places don't abuse their oil by overheating or using it too long. Burger joints and Fish and chip places are the worst. Clean dry Canola no darker than light maple syrup is what you should be looking for. Do your research on an informative forum such as biodiesel infopop and good luck. Dan
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its not flamable like gasoline or diesel or bio D.
Diesel is barely flammable. Pour a bit on your driveway and try to light it. I bet you can't do it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:17 PM
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Why bother with the Bio D route, there are so many complications. Just convert the vehicle with a well designed system like the Frybrid kit and be done with it. No more Lye or Methanol to deal with, no blowing up the garage and or house, and no unreacted Bio D to worry about. I made one batch of Bio D and immediately decided to go the WVO route and have been very happy with the Frybrid results. I had a different kit in the vehicle ( Mercedes Source) CRAP and after being towed too many times to count, I pulled the Mercedes Source electrically heated sysetm out and put in the Frybrid. I love my Frybrid Kit. I am not affiliated with Frybrid I am just a very happy customer. I spoke to the local Fire Department about storing 1000 gallons of WVO on my property and they said "no problem its not flamable like gasoline or diesel or bio D.
One man's opinion. We brew, and well, by being FASTIDIOUS ABOUT THE TITRATION and final drying.

Brewing allows us to mix it with regular fuel.

Lazy man's brewing = IP rebuilt. A $1500 rebuilt is a high price to pay for being lazy. Buy D2 instead.

BigBlock Chev Dan has some great points.

We use compressed air to push the sodium methaoxide into a closed system. I'll blow my nuts off reloading before I do brewing.

The 55 gal drums of methanol are, well, intimidiating though. I am planning on an out building eventually.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:21 PM
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Google -- GL. 'Eco' BioDiesel processor.

--Does the whole job of making fuel with reasonable safety, -Usual caveats apply.

Its important to make your fuel Properly, Poorly made fuel will be nothing but trouble!

-It will either not 'wash' correctly, remain cloudy, block filters, precipitate out glyc. long after you think it wont and gum up your tank and fuel-system, be poorer than it could have been in cold weather....

It takes less time to make it Well, than try and sort out a cruddy batch due to slip-shod making!

--I should know, Ive been making BioDiesel for over 10 years, and running engines/cars on veggy 5 years before that!
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:12 AM
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Why bother with the Bio D route, there are so many complications. Just convert the vehicle with a well designed system like the Frybrid kit and be done with it.
And WVO's engine killing problem isn't worse?
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And WVO's engine killing problem isn't worse?
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We are all human beings, right? Human beings make mistakes. I know someone who was making BioD in his garage, he had a pile of cleanup rags in a bucket in the corner of the garage. The rags caught fire from spontaneous combustion and burnt down the garage and all his processing materials. The local Fire Dept will not let him make BioD any longer.

I have even made the mistake of leaving my dewatering heater on overnight. Came out into the yard and smelled what smelled like a deep fat fryer. Realized it was my processing system ran to the shop and sure enought I had left the heater on all night and the oil was roiling in the 55 gal. drum and all over the floor of the shop. Thank goodness I had lots of sawdust to throw on it to sop it up. I then put the WVO/sawdust mix into empty cardboard milk cartons. I use them in the wood stove in the winter, they burn for 2 hours.

People make mistakes, I would just rather not have the methanol and lye as the mistakes, I can handle WVO.

I have 40,000mi on WVO and I love it, it has sometimes been a challenge but what is life with out challenges?

During that 40k miles I have had 2 jobs where my employer paid mileage and on WVO that was just fine with me.
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