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Just looking into WVO, I found a setup at the junkyard
Yep. New to mb and showed up crying lol. But getting on top of it. Lots of direction change and this car might be going to someone else shortly as a gift. I need a second vehicle to do it proper and a friend showed up with one. Kinda liked my car so I might finish it proper and hand him the keys. However, Ill find another one. I'm an addict at this point.
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Alright I talked to one good buddy that has a restaurant. He goes through about 50 gallons of soybean oil a month. A company takes it, but the deal is the only pay when oil is high. When it's low they charge. He's breaking even currently. So once he's getting charged I can probably work a contract to get it for free.
50's more than enough for me. That's around town and LA once a week. But I'm checking if soybean oil is good. |
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x2 Soy oil is very good. Will the restaurant owner work with you to make sure there is no water added to the oil? (like dumping their boil out in the oil bin).
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Just looking into WVO, I found a setup at the junkyard
Yes, I borderline consider him a brother. Really close with the family, the parents used to own it and I grew up in there. I help out and wait some tables sometimes, so I have a bargaining chip as well.
I also need to get them to start putting them in the containers they come in, instead of a 55 gallon drum. This week I'll see if I'm even keeping this car. If so I'll start collecting. Seems like you need 55 gallons just to get the cold filtering process going. However I need to get injectors before the change. Need to research these polymers more. I just spent $1100 on the motor with rebuilding it. I'm getting 35 mpg currently. Just picked up a 3.69 differential (current is 3.92). I'm shooting for 40 mpg... Thank you guys. I can't imagine how hard this would be without the help. |
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Poly is not a huge concern if you 2 tank. There's enough successful blenders. There are some oxidation tests people do with biodiesel. There's a guy that documented poly of B100 in his head on frybrid.com.
Really, if you wanted to do a comparative fouling test with injector pump and lawnmower engine parts and D2, VO and 80/20 VO/RUG, and the other blend I've heard is 98/2 VO/acetone, I think it would be interesting and not too hard. No doubt, I've observed poly in my steel VO tank in the car and around the copper parts of the HX in the tank. It was not really adhered to anything and came out pretty easy, though quite messy. I had some blockage symptoms but it turned out to be a kinked HX stem. Some people (oldsinner111) see chronic filter loading probs. The engine that came with my car had massive blowby or oil burn, not sure which, I think the PO started and shut down on VO in the summer, I think the oil rings loaded up and fouled. New engine is fine on VO 2 tanking, a little sooty, especially when wound out, like merging. Could probably get injectors rebuilt. Good power on grease, 85 on the level was faster than I wanted to go when working in the hinterlands, and that was not a problem.
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my best oil,I had I had a man dielver to my garge.300 gals,it was centfudged oil.But I ran KFC oil,I bought for a dollar a gallon for 3 years.The KFC oil,and what I collect and bought,I only ran when temps were above freezing.I bought used pairs of jeans and filtered when temps were below freezing.This got rid,of the animal fats,that clog filters.My car had a electric fuel pump,that pushed fuel thru am 20 micron filter,and water seperator.Pushed it to my underhood 5 micron filter then regular filters into engine.I ran a 50% mix,as I didn't fully trust the oils,to go 100%.I had another tank for diesel,and used manual valves.I had a 30 platte heat exchanger,injection line heaters and one for 5 micron filter,that I wired a thermostat to turn of at 200 degrees.One time I got caught with just a 10% mix,annd temps went to zero,and oil forze.But added one gallon gasoline,and it ran.
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Ohhh. Here you are.
Will I be able to successfully cold filter in California coast? And with the poly concerns should I plan on switching my tank to plastic of aluminum? I'm starting to think two tank because my concern of poly getting into the motor on startup. But I'm short tripping everywhere so I'm contemplating a blend tank in the trunk and no heat. What I need to study is the filtering and return systems. For my case it seems running separate filters and returns for faster bleed times. But unsure if you can switch a return or if I should just return to my blend tank. |
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Just looking into WVO, I found a setup at the junkyard
Last thought...
My brother in law has a brewery and offered me about 10 full sized stainless steel kegs that are functional. I'm contemplating using them for storage and pumping a different gas in. For beer co2 or nitrogen are standard, but I need to look at the chemistry of poly and what would stop it. I'm no chemist but I got 104% in chemistry in college and find it fascinating. Will the stainless be an issue? Should I hunt for aluminum kegs? I could probably get them for cheap. Brother in law knows everyone in the industry and someone is bound to have some dented up ones. |
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Forest Gregg wrote a good book that touches on the chemistry: http://bunkum.us/svo/ William Kemp's Biodeisel basics and beyond was a useful read as well. Biodiesel Basics and Beyond: A Comprehensive... GregMN also sent me his a link to his OM603 system. Any OM61x system will be simpler by a bit. Mostly in the trunk, and very sharp, I thought http://oldhouselights.com/_private/350SDL/1991_350_SDL_WVO_Conversion.htm
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Thought about that. With being in agriculture I can get ibc's. And I have a forklift. But not sure if I'll store that much.
Cool. I'm gonna check into gasses. And keep researching start up blowby. Seems easier to run a second tank in the trunk that change out my my steel one. And more fuel I can carry. |
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There's a trick you have to do too with 61x. You have to block the port of a banjo bolt, or simply replace it, it normally lets the fuel return scavenge air from the intake line. You also have to change the plumbing so the lift pump sucks from the fuel filter (or the VO filter, when switched over). If you don't plug it, you can get VO in the stock tank, a bad thing if you run fatty stuff, palm oil, PHO, anything solid at your ambient temp.
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Just looking into WVO, I found a setup at the junkyard
Could I just have no return to my stock tank and let it all return to blend tank?
I get the part about filtering before the lift pump. And will run an electronic booster on my blend tank. But I'm not finding this line from intake to return. A warning about the pics, this is a 615 with a spin on filter setup from a (maybe) 1976 616. I'm thinking I'll run this filter for stock tank, and cap off the return and connect it to my WVO tank. Run a larger micron filter in the trunk before electric pump, a finer micron under the hood, and a water separator with a sight window and float. Also debating an inline prefilter directly after the tank maybe. Makes it easier to spot a clog. Also all clear tubing (fuel rated) for spotting clogs (bubbles). |
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The return pumps a lot of fuel quickly-you will probably overfill the WVO tank and empty the D2 tank in a flash.
Electric valves are around $40/pop-why not do it the right way?
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