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Old 11-05-2004, 11:16 AM
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I had my 230sl dash recoverred. I think I paid 50.00. I had to remove it etc. It wasn't that expensive. But with a 123 car it would be a bigger deal. I see new dashs on eBay all the time, I think they trade for about 70.00.

Going today to check out the patch kits, I'm also going to stop by a local upholstery place to see what they recommend...
You don't see new dashes all day for $70, you see dash covers for $70, HUGE difference.

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Old 11-05-2004, 11:18 AM
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Performance Products has overlays for 123s that do look great but cost $120. Quick, easy installation.


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Old 11-05-2004, 11:59 AM
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Get a tube of Silicone Rubber, at your local hardware store, that matches the color of your dash as closely as possible. Put a little in the crack and smooth it out with a wet finger. If the color is close enough, the crack will become invisible. Silicone rubber remains flexible and will expand and contract with the dash.

If the crack does expand, than drilling a small hole at the leading edge of the crack is the only solution. If you do drill a hole, than fill the drilled hole with the same silicone rubber, and your dash, at least the repaired section, will be fine for a long long time.

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Old 11-05-2004, 03:05 PM
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Phil, great tip, wish I had seen it a few weeks ago. This is how I fixed a small crack on mine.

Drilled small hole on leading edge of crack.
Filled in hole and crack with clear super glue (use toothpick to apply)
After it dried, smooth with 1000 grit sandpaper, blends it in to dashs finish and removes the shinny look of the glue.

But didnt think about the expansion and contraction, think your silicone will work better.

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Old 11-05-2004, 07:12 PM
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Phil,

Sounds like something I would try. Did you do any special prep, such as alcohol, in order for the silicone rubber to adhere better?

The single solitary crack on my dash is barely 1" long.

I agree with what was stated earlier: the best conditioner I have found, by far, is Meguiar's. Nice satin finish and no yellowing. It also doesn't make steering wheels slicker than snot.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:27 PM
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Crack dash repair

I goint to repair the dash on the '61.

I sourced a product at an autobody supply house that is semi-ridged 2 part epoxy. I have some small holes too.

My plan is as follows:

Clean and level and widen the cracks
Fill with the epoxy using a flexible artist's pallet knife
Wet sand smooth
Mask dash off
Spray entire dash with vinyl auto paint (used for vinyl upholstery)

This will save me the huge job of removing the entire dash

I think the job will take just a couple of hours -

Anyone tried this approach?

Soon...
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Old 11-05-2004, 08:44 PM
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:24 PM
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Sorry, I should have mentioned that I did use a bit of rubbing alcohol to clean the area prior to applying the Silicone Rubber.

Once the Silicone Rubber cured, I applied, Turtle Wax's "2001 Super Protectant", available at Wall-Mart. Its a great product, lasts a long time, is relatively inexpensive, and claims a high UV blocking factor. It smells a bit like leather. I like it even better than the Mercedes/Meguire products, but that's just my personal preference.

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Old 11-05-2004, 09:37 PM
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For those who have pulled a dash from a late 70's - early 90's MB, they know why the dashboards crack the way they do, it's the inevitable result due to the design of the dash. The dash in those cars is stamped from a thin shell of aluminum, covered with a thin layer of padding/vinyl cover that is molded onto the shell. Two different materials with two different expansion rates. Over time, the shell will expand and contract with heat and cooling, primarily in the direction between the driver's and passenger side. If the vinyl skin gets brittle, due to UV exposure and/or outgassing of the vinyl, it will split in the hood to tail direction when the dash shell expands and contracts. Unlike leather hides, you can't replace the petrochemical elements of the vinyl, you can only protect the material from UV exposure with a fitted windshield cover, a dash cover, or some other UV block.
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Old 12-05-2004, 08:40 AM
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My father in law has just had his 76' Laguna's dash rebuild (recovered) and it cost him aprox $600. Not cheap but how extensive do you want to go..
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:21 AM
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I need a dash cover for mine and have searched several places, including Fastlane to no avail.

Was gonna search more but you may save me some time if you could tell me where to get one. My dash is nice and I need to cover it to keep it that way.

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Old 12-05-2004, 01:36 PM
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I use Vinylex and vinyl repair kit from Pep Boys

I have a '97 E300D and my dash started to crack around the speaker also. Also cracking around the indention for the passenger side airbag.

PepBoys offered two vinyl repair kits. One that allowed for mixing of colors and one that was clear. I chose the clear kit because it was cheaper.

I also stopped using Armour All and started using Vinylex. I also purchased a sunscreen.

I have not noticed the cracks getting any larger, but it's only been about six months since the application. I'd check now, but it's raining hard. My only pointer is don't apply too heavily. The clear liquid adhesive is fairly invisible if you don't lay it on too thick. It leaves a white film if applied thickly. Also, the texture forming piece of cardboard they supply with the kit is not very useful.

Dashboards start to crack because the plastisizers slowly evaporate from the dash. I was told by a Phd Chemical Engineer who makes these chemicals, that the clear film buildup you'll see on the inside of windshields is evaporated plastisizers (can be easily wiped off). Plastisizers are an anti-oxidant additive to inhibit UV oxidation. Similar anitoxidant molecules are added to engine oils and body paints to make them last longer. I chose Vinylex because it claims to restore plastisizers. Other products have been mentioned in this thread. They may be better products but I'm not sure. Anyone have an opinion on Vinylex compared to say Meguires products etc?

NOTE: I'll report my dash condition as soon as it stops raining.
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Old 12-05-2004, 02:35 PM
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vinyl repair - no success

I closely inspected the small cracks I tried to repair a few months ago. Either the adhesive shrank when cured (most likely) or the cracks have widened slightly. So, I would not recommend the clear-type repair.

I may use the colored-type in the future. It may not keep the cracks from getting bigger, but it should camoflage well enough. I think this, in combination with preventive measures, will keep the dash looking good for years. I just wish I would have had the chance to start the prevention program earlier (bought the car used so I didn't have the chance).

For prevention, as previously stated, I'm using Vinylex and a sunscreen.

That's my two-cents.
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Old 12-05-2004, 02:38 PM
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I've been using good ole baby oil since Ive had the car, and I have not seen any cracks on my 85 300SD. Is that a good thing to be using I was told by an old-time friend who used it on his 83 240D every since he got it, and it really looks like it works.
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Old 12-05-2004, 03:47 PM
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I bought my dash covers from JC Whitney--it was 30 some dollars and fit very well.
Good ole JC. I'll check on that. And the price is right!!

Thanks.

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