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The size is 46mm. A 1 13/16 socket will also work fine. The SDL had clearance problems and a socket that large (with 3/4 drive) would probably be too long for it. I understand that the proper tool is a special, short, 46 mm socket with a 1/2" drive. A wrench that large may also not be suitable due to limited room to swing it. Good luck. If you do get it out via an alternate method, please advise. |
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I've got serious fungus problems...
My prefilter would turn BLACK after less than a half-tank, so I took action.
I drained the tank, when I removed the hose from the bottom of the tank, the fuel GUSHED out, so the in-tank strainer is not clogged (or it has been compromised in some fashion) anyway, I filtered all of the fuel, and got lots of black gunk out. I now have 2 primary filters in the fuel line, and I have been reusing the prefilters. I can't believe all the gunk that comes out of that tiny filter. Am I the only one here cheap enough re use the primary filters?? I just rinse with simple green, gently blow it out and reinstall. (then 100 miles later its jet black again.) I'm using a star-brite fungus enzyme, (the same one I use in my boat diesel) hopefully its doing its job. Cheers, Robert
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Hello Mister Byrnzoil and thanks to PEH and Brian C. for your comments.
In response to Mr. B.: I am not that experienced working on these cars yet, but your experience sounds similar to mine. Fuel gushed out of my line after the strainer, too. I stopped it back up because I have so much in the tank and I didn't want it all out at that point! I siphoned a bunch (7 gallons or so) of the diesel out through the fuel tank. That stuff looks real clean. The stuff that gushed out of the fuel line that I caught in my basin was black. I think I can re-use the stuff that I siphoned out (I'll treat it w/ biobor to keep it clean). With less fuel in the tank, maybe it will gush out less quickly, so I'll probably siphon some more out and then attempt to remove the strainer and catch what comes out at that point. My intention is to re-use this strainer (from what I read on this conference, cleaning it and then reusing it is fine). I am less tempted to re-use the prefilter, but I cannot comment on that. The prefilters are cheap, though, and easy to get.... |
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46 mm fuel strainer bolt.
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I also tried removing the return line to the tank to allow me more room to swing wrenches and such for the fuel strainer. I can't even get that 3/4 inch or so nut off that hooks the return line into the tank.... It seems I am about to tear into the tank itself to get that nut off.... Is there a good way to get the 3/4 nut off (they have several inch hoses attached) when there is a ridge present that keeps from getting a good grip on the bolt with a crescent wrench? Heck, now that I have gotten it this far, maybe I should just remove the whole tank so I can get the strainer off and give the tank a proper cleaning.... |
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Why Bother.
Swap the "fuel delivery" and "return" lines in the engine bay and draw fuel from the "return" line and return fuel to the tank in the "fuel delivery" line. Any contaminants in the tank which are picked up will be deposited in the prefilter. The "return" line goes to the bottom of the fuel tank (in the sedan at least). Assuming the same design brief for the designers of both fuel tanks, the wagon should go there too. My wife's car has been running in this configuration for 12 months now, since it has a "one-way" issue in the fuel lines. - Fuel will go into the tank from the "fuel delivery" line, but not from the tank in that line. I even replaced the fuel tank, with no resolution of the problem. Remove the flex hose from the strainer and fuel flows freely, no dings in the metal fuel line, just one-way flow. Swap delivery & return, NO PROBLEM.
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Tony from West Oz. Fatmobile 3 84 300D 295kkm Silver grey/Blue int. 2 tank WVO - Recipient of TurboDesel engine. Josephine '82 300D 390kkm White/Palamino int. Elizabeth '81 280E, sporting a '79 300D engine. Lucille '87 W124 300D non-turbo 6 cylinder OM603, Pearl Grey with light grey interior Various parts cars including 280E, 230C & 300D in various states of disassembly. |
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Both my supply and return hoses are right next to each other and both are held with those brass 3/4" (something metric) nuts. What is the exact issue with removing them? The stick down far enough from the tank so that you can get an open end wrench on them. I'm not sure of what you mean by a "ridge present" that keeps you from getting a good grip on the bolt????
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Ridge? This ridge you mention sounds a lot like the fuel screen itself. The fuel line screws directly into the bottom of the fuel screen. The bottom of the fuel screen is a light weight "nut" made into a flange that is 46mm. I had no problems on an '84SD with a 3/4 dr. 46mm socket on about a 10" ext. (Harbor Freight special). I'm not understanding the problem you are having.
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I've done quite a few strainers, both on my back in a driveway and on a lift. Some are just easier than others to bust loose, if its getting replaced, try knocking it loose with a hammer and chisel first, the 46mm socket can be hard to keep on the nut while applying torque. I usually use the 46mm socket, 1/2" swivel and 2ft 1/2" extension on a breaker bar.
Who has a cheap source for the socket?? I really need to buy one of my own ....or SAE equivalent?
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350 Last edited by Johnhef; 03-08-2005 at 11:14 PM. |
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Thanks, everyone, for your input. |
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Ah, I see said the blind man.
If I recall, I had to do some special arranging of the jacks and stands in order to get the diff. and axles to move enough (lower) to get clearance. I used ramps then "adjusted" from there. Be very careful and use a backup to every lifting method you use. I too tried the wrench method without success.
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I need to take out my fuel screen but can't find the proper tool.
Went to five garages in the Biloxi area and no one has one that large. Have been on phone and computer for days looking. Thanks for your help. |
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I used a cheap Harbor Freight 3/4" drive socket set. I believe it was about $50.
This may work:http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200322603&R=200322603 Or this:http://www.shop.com/op/~17_Pc_Jumbo_Crowfoot_Wrench_Set_Metric_20mm_to_46mm-prod-15500666 Or if you already have a 1/2" drive socket set:http://www.shop.com/op/~46mm_Front_Wheel_Bearing_Retainer_Socket_1_2_Drive_Impact-prod-15505972
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I find it funny that there is no special Mercedes tool for this purpose that retails for about $119.95.
Usually such is the case.
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