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Old 03-22-2005, 10:19 PM
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Glow plugs not working & I have even replaced relay!

Not sure what the problem is but my glow plug light won't come on and I am not glowing when it should be. So today I replaced the whole relay and.... Same thing. I checked and replaced the glowplugs less than 3 months ago so they should be fine. This is my only car so it is a little discomforting as we are expecting a foot of snow as we speak and it is already dumping and I need to get to work in the morning... Anyway, any ideas? I thought it might be a blown fuse somewhere but there appears to not be a fuse for the glowplugs in the fuse box under the hood...
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Old 03-22-2005, 10:28 PM
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First off, what car do you have?
On the 123's the GP fuse is in the relay box, a silver metal bar at the end toward the back of the car with a screw at either end. If you replaced the relay, then I'd guess the fuse is new too. I hear that they sometimes have hairline cracks in them that are hard to see unless you take them out. Do you have a hard time starting? Could the light in the dash just be burned out?
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When in doubt, start with the basics:

Put a voltmeter on one of the glow plugs and see if you get 12V when you turn the key to the #2 position. If you don't, it's a relay problem. Either the relay has failed again, or the fuse is bad, or the ignition switch is not activating the relay.

If you have 12V at the plugs, then one or more than one of the plugs are bad.
Pull the plug out of the side of the relay and check each plug via the sockets inside the plug. Each should read less than 1 ohm. Doesn't make sense with all new plugs, but, you've got to cover the base.
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Yes it is a 123, 1983. Perhaps one or more of the plugs has gone out. Does the relay have a mechanism that makes it not function if one or more of the plugs has burned out?
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:31 AM
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On your car what ever glowplug(s) are still working should glow regardless if one or more of the others are burned out, only the early cars were wired in series. This really sounds like a fuse problem. IIRC on the 123 the fuse is on the left front fender over the wheel, it is NOT in the regular fuse box. The IP fuse is a flat metal bar, about one inch long and held in place by two screws. There is no covering on the fuse itself but it is in a holder that is covered. Poke around a bit until you find it. Even if the fuse looks good remove it and make sure it is solid and clean. My GP fuse once cracked just under a screw and looked perfect untill I tried to remove it.
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OK I will thanks. I figured it was a relay because the glowplugs wouldn't turn off until I hit the starter. Then the light didn't come on intermittently and now won't come on at all. I will check the fuses though... I was even going to drive to Salt Lake tonight to get some new glowplugs but good to know...
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On your car what ever glowplug(s) are still working should glow regardless if one or more of the others are burned out, only the early cars were wired in series. This really sounds like a fuse problem. IIRC on the 123 the fuse is on the left front fender over the wheel, it is NOT in the regular fuse box. The IP fuse is a flat metal bar, about one inch long and held in place by two screws. There is no covering on the fuse itself but it is in a holder that is covered. Poke around a bit until you find it. Even if the fuse looks good remove it and make sure it is solid and clean. My GP fuse once cracked just under a screw and looked perfect untill I tried to remove it.
If someone could give me more details on where to check for this fuse that would be great. The relay is notr brand new but was in a wrecked car so I assume it worked fine when the car was hit.
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